The pinnacle of insanity...

Discussion in 'Professional Video Production' started by Larry in AZ, May 28, 2008.

  1. Larry in AZ

    Larry in AZ Guest

    Larry in AZ, May 28, 2008
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    mkujbida Guest


    Check out the rest of his store.
    You too can spend $150 for a 2 m. firewire cable, $125 for a 1 m. 3.5
    mm. to 3.5 mm. cable, $9,500 for a CD player, etc.
    The insanity never ends :-(

    Mike
     
    mkujbida, May 28, 2008
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    Hey, remember the recommendations to put bricks on amplifiers, polka dots
    on listening room walls, green Magic-Marker on CD edges, and to find which
    ends of interconnect wires were the inputs and which were the outputs??? And
    then there were those temporarily popular "power conditioners". Nutty, but at
    least those things were generally relatively cheap.....! 8^) The current pricey
    nonsense borders(???) on fraud and should be prosecuted - anyone with
    even a basic knowledge of physics and electronics should be
    ashamed of being taken in by any of these scams!
     
    David Ruether, May 28, 2008
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  4. "David Ruether" wrote...
    People who know something about physics, electronics,
    audio, etc. are clearly NOT their potential customer base.
    Their customers have deep pockets and no practical common
    sense or discernment.

    But why is it so surprising? Monster is in the same business
    (although at somewhat lower inflated prices.)
     
    Richard Crowley, May 29, 2008
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  5. Larry in AZ

    Larry in AZ Guest

    Brick and mortar is expensive...
     
    Larry in AZ, May 29, 2008
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    jakdedert Guest

    A less extreme, but comparable example is just down the street at your
    local Office Depot. They sell USB cables for $20-$30 apiece. I don't
    think there's hardly a single computer cable there for less than
    $20...maybe an 18" ethernet....

    jak

    jak
     
    jakdedert, May 29, 2008
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  7. Yes. Fortunately someone told me about monoprice.com - good
    cables at "throwaway" prices...
    --DR
     
    David Ruether, May 29, 2008
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  9. Larry in AZ

    David McCall Guest

    It might be. With the cost of energy the way it is.

    Not only do you have to pay the lease on all of those buildings and
    pay the employees, but you also lave to heat and air-condition them;
    you have to keep all of them stocked; you send trucks around to
    deliver the goods; don't forget advertising.

    I get almost daily email flyers from Staples and they are offering 20%
    discounts for on-line purchases. I think they want out of brick and mortor.

    David
     
    David McCall, May 30, 2008
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  10. Has anyone priced an HDMI-to-miniHDMI cable? Unless
    you go to the web, you're looking at $65 *minimum*...
    absolutely ludicrous. Definitely worth the wait... I used
    mycablemart.com and got one for $12. Very quick ship.

    Oh, here's a 10percent off 'coupon'... "RTNCUST10PER".
    Spread it around...
    __
    Steve
    ..

    no affiliation
     
    Stephen Cowell, May 31, 2008
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  11. Larry in AZ

    sgordon Guest

    I think the most revealing line in the advert is: "From the first moment,
    when I played a CD, my wife got surprised when I told her that she was not
    listening to a vinyl record."

    : I thought I had seen everything when people were paying $200+ for speaker
    : cables from Monster. A $4,000 power cord has GOT to be the pinnacle of
    : insanity..!

    : This is for real...

    : http://www.needledoctor.com/XLO-LE-10-AC-Power-Cord-Limited-Edition

    : --
    : Larry Jandro
    : Video Engineering & Equipment Rentals
    : Scottsdale, Arizona, USA
    : [Remove spamtrap in ALLCAPS to reply]
     
    sgordon, May 31, 2008
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  12. Um, I think the original post is correct (and, would anyone who would buy
    such a silly thing then properly worry about the "quality" of the wire in the
    house and in the lines leading to the house, let alone the wire from the power
    substation and from the power generating plant to it - and in the windings
    of the transformers and of their core characteristics???!! 8^), but, given my
    post above about stupid audiomaniac nonsense notwithstanding, there are
    often audible *differences* between the sound of CDs and vinyl that can
    make the latter more pleasurable to listen too with good gear...
    BTW, my interconnects are cheap, skinny RS stuff (they are good enough
    to pass video signals, so I figure they are good enough for audio with the
    impedances involved) and my speaker cables are fat (but cheap...;-) since
    amp output impedance is not zero and my speaker input impedance is low
    and varying with frequency (and here is where the one factor of simple
    wire resistance can make a difference in the sound...).
     
    David Ruether, May 31, 2008
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  13. Larry in AZ

    Bill Fright Guest

    tonally and spectrally vinyl is superior to cd.



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    Bill Fright, May 31, 2008
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  14. Larry in AZ

    sgordon Guest

    : wrote:
    : > I think the most revealing line in the advert is: "From the first moment,
    : > when I played a CD, my wife got surprised when I told her that she was not
    : > listening to a vinyl record.
    : tonally and spectrally vinyl is superior to cd.

    Perhaps I wasn't clear...
    To anyone with good enough ears to hear the superiority of vinyl
    over CD, how on earth is changing the power cord going to correct the
    deficiency of the CD medium to where it sounds like vinyl? Are CDs
    just as good as vinyl after all, so long as you improve the power cable?

    And to anyone who believes that CDs sound better than vinyl, is the cord
    just adding noise?

    Regardless of what side of the argument you're on, that sentence makes
    the whole power cord thing sound like a bunch of nonsense.
     
    sgordon, May 31, 2008
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  15. "Bill Fright" wrote ...
    Don't see how you can say that. CDs are much better at making
    rainbow spectra than vinyl ever was. The "grating" is much finer
    and there is a nice reflective surface underneath.
     
    Richard Crowley, May 31, 2008
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  16. Larry in AZ

    Larry in AZ Guest

    Waiving the right to remain silent, "David Ruether"
    That's the fallicy of all these ultra-expensive "phile" cables. After
    something goes through miles and miles of standard cabling, you're not
    likely to improve anything by making the last six feet out of something
    different...
     
    Larry in AZ, May 31, 2008
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    David McCall Guest

    I've heard the argument that Vinyl is superior to CDs, but
    I've never had a proper A/B comparison and I certainly can't verify it.

    For me the bigest thing that CDs don't have is that
    clickity popity
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    clickity popity sound that most of my vinyl tended to develop.

    I've worked in radio and theater and I can verify that CDs
    are a lot nicer for cueing than vinyl or tapeever were

    Even if vinyl actually is better, my hearing is in such bad shape
    that I doubt that I could tell even in a proper A/B comparison.

    I'll not be going back any time soon.

    David
     
    David McCall, May 31, 2008
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  18. Yes. 8^) And at the other ends of those power cords, it is
    the job of the power supplies in our various components to
    provide steady, smooth DC, which they do very well - thus
    making "power conditioners" also silly...;-) But, "there's one
    born every minute", as they say, making fraud easy...
     
    David Ruether, Jun 1, 2008
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    --DR
     
    David Ruether, Jun 1, 2008
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  20. [Noy wishing to raise the "vinyl is better", or "CDs are better"
    thingy, but...;-]
    My experience has been that A/B comparisons can go either way,
    depending on the quality of the CD versions of the same material
    and the characteristics/quality of the gear on both sides of the
    comparison, but for long term listening (with good gear and
    recordings), I do find LPs more pleasant (and I find myself wanting
    to keep popping more of them on the platter, unlike with CDs
    into their players, making for much longer listening sessions
    with them that I enjoy).
    Then you don't know how to keep LPs in good condition, and
    you likely use speakers and cartridges that exaggerate HF noise.
    I have LPs that are decades old, and most have very quiet
    surfaces, even when played quite loudly... (BTW, for more on
    my "audiomania", see www.donferrario.com/ruether/Audio.html ;-).
    No question about that!!! 8^) Though one of my turntables has
    electronic arm positioning, which makes cueing fairly easy...
    Bet you could - if not in an A/B (though you should be able to
    hear *differences* [not necessarily which is better] easily), then
    in terms of long term enjoyment (so, how often do you listen
    to CDs, and for how low long in each session, and how much
    do you enjoy them, and how soon afterwards do you have a
    hankering to listen to more...?).
    Your choice. BTW, something quirky has been happening.
    LPs are returning! ;-) Yup - "record" stores are opening, and
    groups (even pop ones) are issuing their new work on LPs
    (well, OK, this may be just plain weird, even to me - well
    made CDs [especially the high-definition ones] can be quite
    excellent). BTW, just a few comments about gear. I don't
    believe in "expensive" when that can be avoided (I generally
    buy used - or build my own when I can...). Choice of gear
    and its careful set-up is much more important than high price.
    It was a delight recently to rediscover the beauty of the sound
    of a 30 year old $15 Grado phono cartridge (I have always
    liked the cheapest-in-the-line Grado elliptical - and MANY
    other "audiophile" cartridges have lost out to them over the
    years).
     
    David Ruether, Jun 1, 2008
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