There is a moral in this, but it's not what you might think.

Discussion in 'Digital Cameras' started by Eric Stevens, Mar 6, 2014.

  1. Eric Stevens

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    Eric Stevens, Mar 6, 2014
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  2. Eric Stevens

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    not really. it's just more linkbait.

    some of what's on that list were not failures (final cut x) or even
    problems (antennagate) at all.

    where's the list of failures from other companies? oh yea, there is
    none because only apple can do wrong.

    howe about a microsoft kin, a huge, huge failure, far bigger than
    anything apple ever did or will do. that product was doomed from the
    start.

    vista and particularly windows 8 are failures.

    google wave is another.

    the facebook phone is another. i bet you never even heard of it.
     
    Guest, Mar 6, 2014
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    I was about to post more but I was interupted and poxstponed the
    effort.

    What I found so interesting about this was the way in which Apple has
    consistently aimed at being a high achiever and have got there inspite
    of the occasional failures which are the subject of this URL. I can
    think of other companies which have followed different policies and
    achieved differently: MSFT, IBM, Nokia, Kodak, - even Sony. There are
    many others.

    The moral can be summarised as, if you want to achieve high, you have
    to aim high and learn to survive the inevitable failures. And that
    includes pricing and profit margins. The path followed by Apple is
    almost unique.

    What prompted me along this line of thought is general puzzlement
    about what Nikon is up to. It has produced some industry leading
    technology - high density sensors, sensors sans anti-aliasing filters
    etc. Unlike Apple, while there is the new D4s at an eye-wateringly
    high price a lot of new cameras have come on to the market at a
    remarkably low price e.g. the D5300.

    It maybe that Apple has been able to take advantage of design/styling
    to hold their prices up, while in the main Nikon has not been able to.
    After all one camera tends to look much like another. Unless I get
    really close I often find I have to read the name on the front to tell
    a Nikon from a Canon. Maybe this is why Nikon has brought out the Df.
    Is it signs of an attempt to break out of a rut?

    Nikon does not seem to be able to emulate Apple so maybe Apple will
    remain unique in it's approach to becoming the market leader.
     
    Eric Stevens, Mar 6, 2014
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    You missed the point (as usual). This article is not about failures.
    It's not even about Apple. It's about Apple's failures and the
    reason's for them. I found the article extremely interesting and
    thought provoking.
     
    Eric Stevens, Mar 6, 2014
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  5. Eric Stevens

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    it's not about apple? then why do they only mention apple? what else is
    it about, if not apple? it's not about microsoft.
    too bad a lot of it wasn't actaully correct.

    it's link bait. it's that simple.

    final cut x was not in any way a failure. some users didn't like the
    changes, but they weren't the target market. apple sold more of final
    cut x than they did of final cut pro. that's not a failure.

    antennagate was a non-issue drummed up by competitors. signal strength
    dropping when you put your hand on or near the antenna is something
    that happens to every phone, and just about every phone says not to do
    that. that's just how rf works.

    some of the other failures go back many years to when apple was poorly
    run. they had a bunch of duds back then. the idiots who screwed up back
    then are pretty much all gone, so focusing on that is just silly.

    apple, like every company has duds. no surprise there. only the bashers
    expect perfection, and then whenever there is the slightest thing
    wrong, they jump.
     
    Guest, Mar 7, 2014
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    RichA Guest

    Except the 1990's wasn't "pre-internet" it was pre-WWW.
     
    RichA, Mar 7, 2014
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    PeterN Guest

    And you bit hard
     
    PeterN, Mar 7, 2014
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  8. Eric Stevens

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    nope. i'm not the one who posted the link.
     
    Guest, Mar 8, 2014
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  9. Eric Stevens

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    What have you been smoking?

    As far as I know, the only link that has been posted in this thread is
    the one that *I* posted to start the thread.
     
    Eric Stevens, Mar 8, 2014
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  10. Eric Stevens

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    i don't smoke.
    yes, and it's link bait.

    i'm not the one who provided it. *you* did.

    you fell for it.
     
    Guest, Mar 8, 2014
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  11. Interesting, in that while I've read innumerable "Apple's Greatest
    Failures" articles, I've never seen one malign the popular Apple IIc.
    While not a portable computer in the traditional sense, it WAS
    "transportable", and a fair number of people used it that way - keeping
    a monitor at home and one at the office, and easily moving the computer
    back and forth. The IIc was enormously popular (and profitable), worked
    well and was reliable.

    What they COULD have picked on was the Apple Flat Panel Display, an
    accessory for the IIc. It was Apple's first LCD display, and one of the
    first anywhere. Intended to eliminate having two monitors as above, it
    was expensive, awkward, and the image quality was poor, at best. Only a
    few thousand were made.
     
    Scott Schuckert, Mar 8, 2014
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  12. Eric Stevens

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    yep. the iic was not a failure at all.

    the article was written by an idiot journalist tasked with coming up
    with link bait. he succeeded.

    another example was final cut, which is not in any way a failure. it's
    actually *more* successful than the previous version. it just pissed
    off a few vocal loudmouths.
     
    Guest, Mar 8, 2014
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    ??????
     
    Eric Stevens, Mar 8, 2014
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