Thoughts about a Canon HV20 and the BeachTek XLR adapter?

Discussion in 'Professional Video Production' started by stephentimko, Dec 10, 2007.

  1. stephentimko

    stephentimko Guest

    I think the best way for me to go for a new video camera is the Canon
    HV20 and the BeachTek XLR adapter.
    I take it no one can recommend a better camera with a headphone jacket
    and mic inputs in the under $1,000 price range?
    Is there a better XLR adapter for the Cannon HV20?
     
    stephentimko, Dec 10, 2007
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  2. Depends on your application. HD is still largely overkill, because most
    people don't have HD DVD players (burning a disc is going to cost you $20
    per blank plus the burner) and the HV20 isn't quite up to par for HD
    broadcast. That leaves your friends and family as potential audience, and
    only if you play back from the DV tape.

    I have an HV20 that I imported from Japan for almost half the then-retail
    price locally, but my workhorse is my XL1s. I'm not upgrading to HD for
    at least another couple of years.


    jaybee
     
    Jacques E. Bouchard, Dec 10, 2007
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  3. stephentimko

    Smarty Guest

    I've been burning HD DVDs which play for 43 minutes using a $30 standard
    DVD-R burner and $1 dollar DL blanks which play beautifully on HD DVD
    players at full 25 Mbit/sec bitrate. The Toshiba players are now under $200
    (including 10 HD DVD movies) so I really think the objections regarding the
    high cost of distributing HD content and watching HD content are not valid.

    Smarty
     
    Smarty, Dec 10, 2007
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  4. "Smarty" wrote ...
    Thanks, Smarty. Can you share your BKMs (Best Known Methods)?
    What software are you using to make the discs? And what blanks?
    How much of a "sample size" do you have so far to judge playability?
     
    Richard Crowley, Dec 10, 2007
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  5. I'd also be very interested in knowing, Smarty - although I'm still
    holding out on upgrading to HD until more people own players.

    And where do you get your DL blanks? The best I can find now is about $2
    retail on sale.


    jaybee
     
    Jacques E. Bouchard, Dec 10, 2007
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  6. stephentimko

    Smarty Guest

    Glad to reply Richard. My method has evolved / improved over the last 2
    years, having tried the various alternative software and blank disks
    available, and I have now settled on Ulead VideoStudio 11 Plus ($79) for HDV
    editing/HD DVD authoring for most of my semi-amateur work. Final Cut Pro HD
    with DVD Studio also makes very nice disks as well, but at a considerable
    penalty in both cost and rendering time, with no apparent picture quality
    benefit (but with a huge improvement in editing power).

    I have settled on Verbatim DL blanks which I generally purchase in quantity
    50, sometimes less, at around a buck apiece with careful shopping. Others
    also seem to play well such as TDK and Toyo Yuden and some Ritek DLs but the
    Verbatim are the only brand I can consistently rely on to always play
    flawlessly.

    For HD titling I like BluffTitler and for really simple I-cut editing of HDV
    I use VideoRedoPlus, both of which handle HDV extremely well (even on
    vintage 2005 computers). Each software is in the $50 range. Neither is
    required since Ulead does have adequate titling and editing tools, but these
    other tools offer more power.

    The bottom line with all of this is that HD content is no more expensive to
    edit and author than standard def using the tools suggested, which are not
    only very low cost but very stable and reliable with HDV content. I have
    made nearly 200 HD DVDs up to now, the last 80 or so with the Ulead software
    approach identified above. Especially gorgeous are slide shows which contain
    megapixel photos, as well as the HV-20 Canon videos, which often look better
    than HD content I see on either cable, or on the (roughly 30) commercial
    BluRay and HD DVDs I have here.

    None of what I am suggesting above should be necessarily assumed to work for
    AVCHD however, and this format is far less mature today in the editing and
    authoring world. However, one can make very decent AVCHD red-laser disks for
    BluRay players using the Ulead software, but they lack menus, animation, and
    razor-sharp (not rerendered) picture quality based on the couple dozen I
    have tried.

    Hope this clarifies my "Best Practices". For whatever it is worth, Jan Ozer,
    a video guy who has published numerous articles in PC Magazine, eventDV, and
    other places on HDV, also recommends the Pinnacle Ultimate Studio for HDV HD
    DVD creation, and this is indeed a similarly priced approach which I have
    personally not tried / compared. Earlier frustration with Pinnacle drove me
    away a couple years ago, but he and others claim the latest version has good
    stability. This method may be superior to mine.

    Smarty
     
    Smarty, Dec 10, 2007
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  7. stephentimko

    PTravel Guest

    And I've been doing the same (kind of) with my BluRay player. The BluRay
    player will play and HD mpeg2 file, though it won't support menuing. Still,
    it's a nice cheap and easy way to get distributable HD content on disk.
     
    PTravel, Dec 11, 2007
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  8. stephentimko

    Smarty Guest

    Very good point and one I failed to mention. Thanks Paul.

    Smarty
     
    Smarty, Dec 13, 2007
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