tips on getting started making $ with photography

Discussion in 'Photography' started by Kernix, Apr 4, 2006.

  1. Kernix

    Kernix Guest

    Any ideas on how to sell my photos? I've reseached a # of magazines.
    Should I build a website? How about art festivals? Other ways?

    Jim
     
    Kernix, Apr 4, 2006
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    Ric Trexell Guest

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    Jim: It probably depends more on the type of photos you have. If you have
    for example funny pictures of animals, art fairs would be a good place.
    Nice scenic shots might sell there too. If you have people shots, then you
    might want to get into stock photography but that is a saturated business,
    but there is always room for the right person. By the way, stock covers a
    lot of territory, from magazines to textbooks to industry periodicals to you
    name it. For decoration type photos you will probably need to have them
    enlarged to at least 16 X 20 but 20 X 24 or bigger might be better.
    (Hopefully your camera can take the enlargements of that size.) I don't
    think you can just narrow it down to one place and you might need to read a
    few books on whatever you decide to do. Good luck. Ric in Wisconsin.
     
    Ric Trexell, Apr 5, 2006
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    Matt Guest

    If you're gonna print get an Epson 2200. It's a challenge to learn, but
    once you're past the learning curve, you'll be in photo-heaven.

    Don't forget your local coffee shop, as that's where I got my start.
    Also get into a group show. If your work sells you're on your way.

    Not to be a salesman here but I just wrote a book about the topic you
    have put forth.

    The hardest thing, I think, is keeping your costs down so that you make
    money.

    http://digitalartphotographyfordummies.blogspot.com/
     
    Matt, Apr 5, 2006
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    Beach Bill Guest

    Dan Heller's book "How To Make Money with Digital Photography" is
    pretty good. I would suggest looking at a copy in a local bookstore to
    see if it would be useful to you.
     
    Beach Bill, Apr 5, 2006
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    Kernix Guest

    I do mostly landscape, but have included city-scapes since moving to
    Philadelphia. Also, I'll always try to do abstract shots whenever I
    "see" one.

    I shoot 35mm slide. I narrowed down mags and similar publications. I'm
    into the outdoors so hiking/backpacking is okay. For example,
    backpacker pays rather well if you follow a group of backpackers
    through a scenic area and capture the people as well as the scenery.
    "decoration" photos - what do you mean by that? Sales to business or
    doctor's offices? Other?

    Jim
     
    Kernix, Apr 5, 2006
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    Kernix Guest


    Got it - bought it for ~$800 a year ago - still learning how to print
    the killer prints - I play guitar / write music and that's been taking
    up some of my time.

    Did one - no sales but I have a lot of better shots now than then.
    How do you go about getting into a group show?

    Jim
     
    Kernix, Apr 5, 2006
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    Ric Trexell Guest

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    Jim: Yes, stuff like that. If you are selling photos of hikers for example
    you should get a model release from all those in the photos. There are
    really two main types of photography, commercial and editorial. Editorial
    is for mags and newspapers and you don't need a model release unless it is
    of something like drug users or maybe mentally disturbed or handicapped or
    something. Commercial which is strickly for money, you will need a release.
    Remember, don't take legal advice off the internet as the gospel truth,
    consult books or seek legal advice. Ric in Wisconsin.
     
    Ric Trexell, Apr 6, 2006
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    Kernix Guest

    Yeah - I've done a fair amout of reading on the subject. Unless you
    can't make out the person's identity or they are attending a public
    event, a release will be needed.

    But I rarely photograph people, and if I do it's as a silhouette to a
    front lit shot, or the "lonely" figure.
     
    Kernix, Apr 6, 2006
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    Alan Browne Guest

    Put down the camera and the photomagazines. If you were an extra
    talented photographer and had instant success you would know it. As you
    don't then I suggest you:

    Take a community college small business course with marketing/sales and
    basic accounting and finance.

    Then, do your research and decide if a business can be built around
    photography.

    Have fun whatever you do.
     
    Alan Browne, Apr 9, 2006
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    Kernix Guest

    Thanks for nothing Alan. You offered no advice. I have a biz degree so
    - no classes. And I don't read photo mags.
     
    Kernix, Apr 10, 2006
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    Frank ess Guest

    Aside from all that, the reality is: Millions make saleable photos;
    few have the knowledge, skills, or dedication to make commercial sales
    a worthwhile project. Fewer still have the courage to abandon all else
    as an occupation. Even fewer are successful at it.

    --
    Frank ess
    --
    Frank ess
    "In this universe there are things
    that just don't yield to thinking
    -plain or fancy-Dude".
    -J. Spicoli, PolyPartyPerson
     
    Frank ess, Apr 10, 2006
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    Kernix Guest

    As any in anything - everyone's trying to do it and it's therefore
    tough. I just want to start to see what I would need to do to
    suppliment my salary until I can go fulltime - if ever at all.
     
    Kernix, Apr 10, 2006
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    no_name Guest

    Oh! Well, since you obviously know everything already, why'd you ask us?
     
    no_name, Apr 10, 2006
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    D4 Guest

    Oh good, even more weekend warriors.

    What job do you do during the week then?

    Maybe I offer your employer my services, at a much reduced rate whilst
    I'm getting experience. Hell, your employer may even stop your
    employment when he realises that I can do your job but for less salary.

    You want to be a photographer, thats fine, but don't take my job away
    from me whilst you gain your knowledge/experience.
     
    D4, Apr 11, 2006
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    Kernix Guest

    Yeah, that describes me - yeah right.
    You couldn't do my job.
    If you can't do your job you'll have more people than myself taking
    your job away. I've been shooting for over 10 years and not as an
    amateur hobbyist. I have the knowledge & experience just not as it
    applies to the sales/marketing aspect.

    Excuse me for growing up poor and getting a corp job - didn't feel like
    being a starving artist.

    Jim
     
    Kernix, Apr 11, 2006
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    Kernix Guest

    Learn to read - I never said I know everything, but I'll respond to
    someone who responds - but responds with notta - what's that about?

    Jim

    Thanks to those who gave positive input!
     
    Kernix, Apr 11, 2006
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    Matt Guest

    I combined my writing and photography when I decided to become what I
    am now (mostly a photographer) so that I could sell to magazines. Rough
    road--magazines--editors are obsessively picky. It's just a tad bit
    better when you write about your photographers. Easier yet are niche
    publications--write and photograph about what you know.

    In order to sell your photographs start with subjects/objects that
    people will take to in your community. It can be anything really (I
    started photographing mid-century motel signs).

    Before I knew it (and after I got a MA in Creative Arts), I woke up
    this morning and (every morning since my book hit the bookstores)
    realized that I'm an author, a real live author. Sure it's a Dummies
    book, but so what--a book's a book.

    Now I sell my photos to stores, promote my book and wait for two other
    projects that I have in the line to get some hits from some publishers
    (a reeealllly tough game).

    To see some photos, the name of the book, and, of course, those bright
    spots of my career--the mid-century motel signs go to mattbamberg.com
    (don't forget to click on blog as that's way too fun.)
     
    Matt, Apr 12, 2006
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    Alan Browne Guest

    -sigh-

    First off, it is pretty damned rude to snip out whatever it is you are
    replying to, especially so negatively.

    Secondly, as you did not declare your "biz degree" (ahem) there was no
    way to gauge your ignorance which,

    Thirdly, from your question, seems oddly ignorant for one who claims to
    have a "biz degree", and,

    Fourthly, the bit about magazines was to rebut advice others gave you and,

    fourth and last, I did give you the key bits of advice necessary before
    going forward:

    I: do your research and decide if a business can be built around
    photography.

    II: Have fun whatever you do. But I suspect that will be your greatest
    challenge and the seeds of your lifelong defeat.

    Cheers!
    Alan.
     
    Alan Browne, Apr 12, 2006
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    no_name Guest

    I'm taking a degree in commercial photography.

    Prior to that I was a platoon sargent.
     
    no_name, Apr 12, 2006
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    Kernix Guest


    You don't to understand the whole message thing do you. Why post the
    entire msg whn you just want to respond to a part - can't y ou remember
    what you wrote.
    Stop making negative assumptions.
    Hence my initial response - you're a nasty dude who whas to respond in
    a nasty way - don't respoond if you have nothing good to say.
    Well, that defines your intelectual level - not too bright huh? Making
    assumptions about someone yopu don't even know - not too bright buddy.

    And I'm so sick of this usenet envrionment - why are there so many
    people who feel the need to be snotty in their responses when the OP
    just a harmless question? What happened to you Alan? Where did that
    itch come from that you feel the need to constantly scratch?

    Jim
     
    Kernix, Apr 12, 2006
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