To change the subject :-)

Discussion in 'Video Cameras' started by Laurence Payne, Feb 10, 2004.

  1. All this willy-waving about how much "professional" technical
    knowledge we've managed to pick up is great fun :) But I can't
    remember the last time someone said: "Hey! I just made this great
    video! Let me tell you about it!".

    Tony, Jerry, Malcolm, and the rest of you - so what have you been up
    to? Forget what camera you used, what format you shot on, what
    program you edited in. What was the film about?

    I'm currently making up a showreel for an actress friend - lots of
    snippets from bit-part appearances on "The Bill", "London's Burning"
    etc. - the jobbing actor's bread-and-butter work. Not very creative,
    I'm afraid :)

    Anyone working on something more interesting?
     
    Laurence Payne, Feb 10, 2004
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  2. Laurence Payne

    SjT Guest

    I'm currently working on a short film based around a guy who meets
    himself in a field and goes a bit crazy and loses his mind :D

    And then i shall be doing a fake-ghost film, involving myself
    communicating to a spirit in my house and capturing it on film, it
    will be made like a documentary and hopefully i can put it out into
    the public domain to shit a few people up :D

    (But keep that secret:)

    Then i hope to embark on an hour long film, which i am quarter of the
    way through writing, its amazing how much content is required for 60
    mins of footage though, mind blowing!!! :(

    Good post btw, and good luck :)
     
    SjT, Feb 10, 2004
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  3. Laurence Payne

    Jake Guest

    Not necessarily more interesting, but it is for me in that I get to do a bit
    of experimenting and playing around :)

    As a relative newbie, and after getting lots of helpful advice from this NG
    about green screen stuff, I'm going to try and shrink my nephew and niece
    down to 5 inches high so they can have a miniature adventure around their
    own house.

    Superb quality isn't the object, as I'm aware of the limitations of
    chromakey with DV (again through this NG, past and present posts), but *if*
    it's passable it'll be worth it to see the kids' reactions.

    Jake
     
    Jake, Feb 10, 2004
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  4. Laurence Payne

    Tony Morgan Guest

    My trouble is that since retiring I seem to have lost "drive" and focus.
    Time was when I picked up a project I'd beaver away until it was
    finished (mainly in my work - when I was working of course). I did
    attack (and finish) with some gusto the garden hard landscaping (my
    garden was little more than a large field when I moved in two-and-a-half
    years ago). Now I'm just slothful :)

    My problem now is that I start projects, then put them on the back
    burner and start yet another one. I'm gonna have to grit my teeth and
    get them to closure :)
    I also do some web design work which diverts me from video making.

    Apart from the usual holiday stuff, the only proper project that I've
    actually finished over the last year is something I did for the BBC
    Voices project, but when I eventually finished it the Voices project in
    Rhyl had just closed. They did send me a certificate though and I had a
    letter from a producer saying that they might be interested in doing a
    short feature on Rhyl (note the "they" and not "me"). You may or may not
    know that Rhyl was categorised as the fourth most deprived area in the
    UK - which just isn't true. My video aimed to show just how good a place
    it is to live in. I really will have to re-"Make" it into Real Media and
    put it up on the Web.

    The other things I've got "in the making" are a video on setting-up and
    using power tools (compound mitre-saws, table-saws and the like). Lots
    of DIY programs on making things but little on the setting-up and basic
    use of bench power tools. And I am (and always have been) an avid DIYer
    with a garage as a workshop rather than a place to keep a car. Since
    there is an insatiable demand on the media for DIY programming, I do
    believe that if anyone could produce a video that could pass as being
    "professional" there would be money to make. And the BBC producers who I
    spoke to while being on the Rhyl Voices Steering Committed said the Beeb
    would accept DV programming providing it was good enough.

    I've also got an ongoing project all about using Vegas 4. Though this
    isn't (except for a talking head commentary) camcorder work, but uses
    Camtasia. Yet another project started is on networking PCs on ADSL
    connections, with emphasis on wireless networking - this is a sort of
    parallel thing with a website covering the same that I'm putting
    together. It also involves PC graphics and Camtasia captures quite a
    lot.

    Things, however, have got worse since I got shingles about four weeks
    ago, which has run on to post herpatic neuralgia - which is quite
    debilitating, and is a cause of concern since I'm going to the Gambia in
    two weeks time.

    Then of course I get diverted in other activities (learning Welsh,
    learning to play the keyboard.... )

    --
    Tony Morgan
    "In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice. In practice,
    there is." - Yogi Berra
    http://www.camcord.info
    http://www.rhylonline.com
     
    Tony Morgan, Feb 10, 2004
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  5. Laurence Payne

    SjT Guest

    You will be very surprised with the quality of chromakeying with DV
    footage, i was! If you can get the green backdrop as smooth as
    possible you're laughing. I got a few massive sheets from QD for
    about 4 quid each, one blue, one green, and one orange (You never
    know;) and they work really well, you just have to remember to put it
    underneath you too if you want a full body shot.
     
    SjT, Feb 10, 2004
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  6. Laurence Payne

    Tony Morgan Guest

    I've encountered a few folk on Usenet (other newsgroups of course) who
    could well be type-cast in the leading role there :)
    --
    Tony Morgan
    "In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice. In practice,
    there is." - Yogi Berra
    http://www.camcord.info
    http://www.rhylonline.com
     
    Tony Morgan, Feb 10, 2004
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  7. Laurence Payne

    Jake Guest

    Very encouraging words - thanks! Now I'm really looking forward to starting
    this project :) I've just finished editing 6 hours of honeymoon footage so
    I'm at a bit of a loose end. Could be starting sooner than I thought.

    Jake
     
    Jake, Feb 10, 2004
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  8. Oh GAWD!
    We're off onto tecchie issues ALREADY! :)
     
    Laurence Payne, Feb 10, 2004
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  9. Laurence Payne

    Jake Guest

    Nope, I wasn't going to say another word on the matter :)

    Jake
     
    Jake, Feb 10, 2004
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  10. Let me not be one to say: "Well, snap out of it then! Be a doer, not
    just a criticiser!". But maybe, I don't have to :)

    I find myself pontificating rather a lot on the computer-music forums,
    where I do a lot more than dabble. But, after putting some newbie's
    silly ideas right for the 22nd time, I often have to kick myself and
    say: "Watch out! He's running into problems, but at least he's DOING
    it! I'm just talking about it!"
     
    Laurence Payne, Feb 10, 2004
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  11. Laurence Payne

    SjT Guest

    Dump the honeymoon footage and play (Congrats btw) :D

    I hate doing home vid stuff now, i just tell people my camera's broken
    so i can do weird stuff mwuhahaha :D
     
    SjT, Feb 10, 2004
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  12. Goodness, that sounded pompous, didn't it :)
    Occupational hazard of trying to be concise on Usenet. :)
     
    Laurence Payne, Feb 10, 2004
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  13. Laurence Payne

    Ed Fielden Guest

    That's my line! :eek:)
    In very recent months I've mostly just been filming random stuff at work -
    could come in handy in later years :)

    I'm soon going to be filming the local school's drama production, with the
    aim of creating a watchable video and making VHS and/or DVD copies available
    for parents to purchase.

    It's happening over 2 nights, so I'm probably going to end up using one
    camera position on the first night and another camera position on the 2nd
    night. I intend to cut between the two to make the video interesting. I'm
    still trying to work out how best to mic up the stage (see a previous post
    somwhere in the past). And then.... ah crap - I'm on to techie stuff. I'll
    shut up. :)
     
    Ed Fielden, Feb 10, 2004
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  14. Laurence Payne

    Dr Video Guest

    What an excellent question! I actively want good quality story and
    documentary productions and my post of 9/2/04 hasn't yet had a
    response.

    See the thread "made anything interesting?" of that date for more . .
    ..

    Chris
     
    Dr Video, Feb 10, 2004
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  15. Laurence Payne

    Tony Morgan Guest

    In message <c0b62e$3rf$>, Ed Fielden
    My interest is moving away from the tekkie stuff these days, since
    (having viewed too many videos shot by my camcorder-toting friends and
    acquaintances) I'm realising more and more that good video depends
    primarily on the shots you have before you start doing any video
    editing. I'm realising the computer-speak of "Garbage In, Garbage Out"
    is just as applicable to using a camcorder.

    I spent out on "Film Directing Shot by Shot" by Steven Katz and it's
    opened a whole new dimension to using my camcorder. As a result I'm
    getting into old movies, especially those directed by Houston, Ford,
    Hitchcock etc. More diversions from finishing anything :)

    --
    Tony Morgan
    "In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice. In practice,
    there is." - Yogi Berra
    http://www.camcord.info
    http://www.rhylonline.com
     
    Tony Morgan, Feb 10, 2004
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  16. Laurence Payne

    Jerry. Guest

    Stop Spamming.

    You want us to supply you with video films etc. that you then charge for
    people to view !
    May I suggest you go forth and multiply with yourself...
     
    Jerry., Feb 10, 2004
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  17. Laurence Payne

    Jerry. Guest

    Normally because other peoples films tend to bore the living pants off
    others I suspect, unless it's about a subject you really enjoy !
    On the non techie side...
    Other than taking a rest, I won't bore you lot with the whys and wherefores,
    I'm getting to grips with story boarding a short film that is a combined
    ghost, reunion / love story (it's spread over three and a half decades !
    [1]). Quite a change from what I normally prefer to do, documentary type
    stuff, but I'm getting quite excited about being involved with a drama
    (assuming it all comes off).....

    [1] soft focus B&W for the memories, colour for the present day and a mother
    who has to age 40 years whilst the child doesn't during production :~)
     
    Jerry., Feb 10, 2004
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  18. I've said before that the reason I use pro gear is because I have to
    timecode link several recorders all looking at the same 'industrial
    process' from different viewpoints and I require a three hour running
    time. It's not 'willy waving', I simply cannot get either from
    domestic gear.

    Then I edit the highlights which someone else chooses. It's very much
    'video by numbers' and has no artistic merit at all. The main
    requirement is total reliability (another good reason to use decent
    equipment) and a quick turnaround. This activity will take up nine
    days of recording and a similar period of editing this month and is
    for four different household name companies/organisations. Monotonous
    really. :-(
    I also turn out one or two of those most months.

    The last time I made a 'proper video' was almost a year ago. The
    aforementioned jobs rarely give time for anything else.
    Not me.
     
    Malcolm Knight, Feb 10, 2004
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  19. Laurence Payne

    Tony Morgan Guest

    In message <c0bigo$157bcs$-berlin.de>, Malcolm
    Obviously. if you're earning a crust from anything, time is money, and
    obviously again, pay-out for kit that gives returns in terms of time is
    worth while (but obviously has indeed to provide the returns).

    I also wonder who's better off, those who earn a crust from video where
    it all becomes a production line (and probably boring at times) or those
    who do it as a hobby and are able to piss-about without leaving the kids
    without shoes :)

    On this subject (of time) I do sometimes wonder how those who have to
    earn a crust (by whatever non-video means) find it (time I mean) for
    doing video stuff.

    Please, those who have wives/partners who get miffed at the time that
    they, as video enthusiasts, spend glued to their keyboard/screen with
    bits of wire hanging all over the place, put your hands up :)

    --
    Tony Morgan
    "In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice. In practice,
    there is." - Yogi Berra
    http://www.camcord.info
    http://www.rhylonline.com
     
    Tony Morgan, Feb 10, 2004
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  20. Laurence Payne

    Dr Video Guest

    Grow up for goodness sake - attributing your own kind of motivation to
    other people's thoughts isn't exactly starting a conversation, which
    is what I'd like to do.
     
    Dr Video, Feb 11, 2004
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