Trip to B&H, train, 30D and FZ7.

Discussion in 'Digital Cameras' started by J. Clarke, Jul 7, 2006.

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    J. Clarke Guest

    Took the train down to B&H today to buy a camera--I had been on the fence
    over the 30D or the D200 and figured I'd led Providence sort it out--if
    they were sold out of D200s by the time I got there I'd go with a 30D.
    Well, they were sold out so I left with a 30D, the 17-85, and the 24 TS-E.
    Spent more than I had planned (and of course Murphy being Murphy got home
    and the car has no oil pressure--hope it's just the sender) but there's a
    project I've been putting off that I can do now (needs the TS-E).

    Never been to B&H before--it was a trip--highly recommend it, and do buy
    something even if it's just a pencil. That place is _organized_ and it's
    worth the price to see it work.

    Took the Acela back--nice train, clean, roomy, ride seems a little better
    than the regular, but the speed is nothing to write home about--glad I did
    it but probably won't pay the extra again unless it's a _real_ hot day (the
    air conditioning seemed a bit better).

    Now, on the way down I was shooting targets of opportunity out the window of
    the train using an FZ7. Lots of graffiti, made for good targets. Found
    that the FZ just plain didn't respond fast enough to get it. On the way
    back shot it with the 30D. Set it on high speed and when I came to a
    bridge or cut or overpass or the like just held it down and let it shoot
    until we came out the other side.

    Haven't had time to look at the result yet, I suspect it's pretty dismal
    thanks to the condition of Amtrak's window, but the responsiveness is far

    Had a spectacular sunset, but couldn't do a thing with it--changed trains in
    New Haven and the window on the connecting train was mud-spattered. Moved
    to the other side and there was little to see there but trees rushing by.
    Did get one shot of the Connecticut River in near darkness at 1600 that
    might be decent.

    Ended up with about 600 shots on the near-dead battery that came in the
    box--AC power was out on the train so couldn't charge it.

    Anyway, was a fun trip.
    J. Clarke, Jul 7, 2006
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    Pete D Guest

    Pete D, Jul 7, 2006
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    J. Clarke Guest

    I really don't give a damn.
    J. Clarke, Jul 7, 2006
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    Bill Guest

    There is nothing wrong with using a new battery right away.

    All batteries, including Ni-Cad, Ni-MH, Li-Ion, are fully charged and
    tested at the point of manufacture prior to shipping.

    The only reason a new battery has less than a full charge at time of
    purchase is due to electron loss over time - the batteries lose their
    charge sitting on display or shelves.

    Having said that, new batteries should be charged several times before
    their full capacity is available, but the difference between new and
    "broken in" is only a few percent, so it's not a big deal.

    Also, while Ni-Cad batteries should be fully discharged to 1.00v per
    cell from time to time to maintain capacity and long life, Li-Ion
    batteries do not need to be exercised in this fashion. In fact, it's
    best to "top up" Li-Ion packs rather than run them down all the time.

    So for camera battery packs, just use them and be happy.
    Bill, Jul 7, 2006
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    Steve Wolfe Guest

    Using a new battery without fully charging it first is a bad idea.
    Oh, come on. He covered his butt with "depending on the type of
    battery..." Had it been a lead-acid battery, his statement would have
    certainly been true.


    Steve Wolfe, Jul 8, 2006
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    Charles Guest

    If you pick it up there at the store you have to pay the New York sales
    tax. But what I do when I am at the store and decide to make a large
    purchase is have them ship it. Then you won't have to pay the tax.
    There is a shipping fee but if you get normal delivery it is much less
    to do it that way than paying the New York sales tax.
    Charles, Jul 9, 2006

  7. So why conflate the visit and the purchase ?

    When I buy from BH (I live in eastern MA) I can order
    on a Monday morning and usually get the item on Tues AM
    or Wed AM, latest.

    BH won't charge tax, but of course you're supposed to
    declare it on your MA state tax return.

    rafe b
    Raphael Bustin, Jul 9, 2006
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    J. Clarke Guest

    And if I want to take pictures of the Acela then I have to pay the train
    fare again.
    J. Clarke, Jul 9, 2006
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    J. Clarke Guest

    They'll ship to your home when you buy in the store, if you do that then you
    don't pay the tax. The tax rate IIRC is about 8% (I don't have the
    paperwork in front of me), and you pay it if you take the purchase with
    J. Clarke, Jul 9, 2006
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    Charles Guest

    You don't have to call from your cell phone in the store to avoid sales
    tax. As I posted earlier they will take your order in the store and
    ship it. And if the shipping is outside of New York they won't charge
    the sales tax.
    Charles, Jul 9, 2006
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    Paul J Gans Guest

    The trade off is on the one hand, shipping costs plus the
    wait for the equipment, worries that it might have gotten
    banged around, etc., etc.

    On the other hand you have travel costs and sales tax. But
    you gain the chance to actually hold equipment in your hand
    and look it over. I've never been rushed when purchasing
    something at B&H. Bought a camera back-pack recently and
    must have spent 20 minutes with the salesman going over
    different backpacks.

    My particular guess is that if you can amortize the cost
    of the trip by having other things to do in New York, then
    the trip to B&H is worth it. Otherwise, you likely will
    do better ordering over the internet or by phone.

    By the way, since B&H has only a New York store, I don't
    think anyone else in any of the 49 states has to pay sales

    ---- Paul J. Gans
    Paul J Gans, Jul 9, 2006
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    Eric Miller Guest

    Yes, but I have yet to see a Canon 30D that ships with a lead-acid
    battery. "Depending on the type of battery" is pretty meaningless when
    you are specifically referring to a Canon BP-511A.

    Eric Miller
    Eric Miller, Jul 10, 2006
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