tripod head - bogen 3130 advice (vs 3030) needed

Discussion in '35mm Cameras' started by larrylook, Apr 17, 2005.

  1. larrylook

    larrylook Guest

    I bought the bogen 3001N with 3030 head online used, but they sent it to me
    the 3130 head, which appears to be $14 dollars more when purchases new. I
    may keep the 3130 but I'm having a problem with it that maybe the 3030 would
    solve. I'd appreciate any advice or suggestions as I'm totally new to

    When I'm shooting horizontally (landscape), with the 3130, if the ground is
    uneven and the L (or R) side of the camera is lower or higher, there appears
    to be now way to solve the problem! Is this normal! The only way I can get
    the L (or R) side higher (or lower) is by shortening or raising the tripod
    legs, which is totally annoying. The same goes for vertical shooting too.
    There are not enough axis of rotation, and you must shoot on completely
    level land for the camera to be level!

    If I return the head and ask for the head I ordered (3030) will it solve
    this problem? Online photos show the 3030 has 2 handles, not one, so maybe
    there are more axis of turning which may be what I need. I occasionally
    shoot at a lake and the ground is uneven and I'd like the horizon level
    which apparently can't be done with the 3130, unless I'm missing something.
    I can't believe the 3130 can't be used on unleveled ground at all. Any
    advice would be appreciated.

    See photos here:
    larrylook, Apr 17, 2005
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  2. Get the 3030. The 3130 is a fluid head intended for video cameras,
    which are usually used in a "level" environment. In order to pan
    effectively (and not produce a roller-coaster movie), the tripod has to be
    level in the first place, so adding the ability to tilt the camera platform
    is usually unnecessary. The 3130 thus does not have the ability, as you've
    noticed, The 3030 does.

    Or, for a totally different option, look at a ballhead, where one
    release lever allows you movement in all axes. If you ever find yourself in
    situations where re-aiming the camera quickly is useful, you'll thank
    yourself many times over.

    - Al.
    Al Denelsbeck, Apr 17, 2005
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  3. larrylook

    larrylook Guest

    Thanks very much. I will send it back. I guess I should consider a ball
    head if they give me a choice vs. just sending me a new 3030. Can you
    recommend a good ball head in the $50-80 range if there is one.
    larrylook, Apr 18, 2005
  4. I like the model 3265 grip action ball head.....See: At $86
    it's only a tiny bit above your price range......
    William Graham, Apr 18, 2005
  5. larrylook

    Roxy d'Urban Guest

    I have one of these (Manfrotto 222). It's okay for sports photography, but
    then again it can cause fatigue of the hand.

    For landscape and macro photography it simply doesn't offer enough
    stability for shake-free imagery. I now use the cheaper 3-way 141 head.
    Roxy d'Urban, Apr 18, 2005
  6. larrylook

    prep Guest

    That is what you should be doing for fast easy set-up. Hold the tripod at the
    top so it hangs straight down, then release the legs and move it so the top
    is level. Then lock the legs. Do a fine adjust if needed.

    A MF 58 is ideal for this as all the locks are at the top. Bigger
    units with the lock WAAAY away need practice to reach them with out
    screwing up the leveling.

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