Ultimate Machine Gunner Dumps Nikon for Canon!

Discussion in 'Nikon' started by Rita Ä Berkowitz, Mar 7, 2007.

  1. Rita Ä Berkowitz

    uw wayne Guest

    PS, visited your web site for the first time, not bad. That by the way
    ain't no apology.
     
    uw wayne, Mar 12, 2007
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  2. Rita Ä Berkowitz

    uw wayne Guest

    uw wayne, Mar 12, 2007
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  3. That will all change when he gets that new 16-35/2.8 II that's around the
    corner.






    Rita
     
    Rita Ä Berkowitz, Mar 12, 2007
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  4. Rita Ä Berkowitz

    uw wayne Guest

    Looked even deeper still. You and Heather do awfully nice work. This
    is not an apology either, from Nikon shooter to a Canon shooter. I
    just enjoyed what you and she have done. My oldest is getting married
    May 5th. I should have flown you both in to do it...even if you shot
    with Canons.
     
    uw wayne, Mar 12, 2007
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  5. Rita Ä Berkowitz

    Mark² Guest

    I think the "I was just fishing" line just sounded a bit too much like
    Douglas Mac's habit of covering his arse by claiming he was just baiting,
    etc. :)
     
    Mark², Mar 12, 2007
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  6. Rita Ä Berkowitz

    Skip Guest

    All too true.
     
    Skip, Mar 12, 2007
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  7. Rita Ä Berkowitz

    Skip Guest

    Thanks, and that does not constitute either amelioration of derogatory Canon
    comments, or an apology on my part. ;-)
     
    Skip, Mar 12, 2007
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  8. I think if he got a 5D for his Nikkors he would change his tune.





    Rita
     
    Rita Ä Berkowitz, Mar 12, 2007
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  9. Rita Ä Berkowitz

    uw wayne Guest

    Rita If only it would work! A full frame Canon sensor for my Nikon
    lens collection, I'd do it in a moment. I never would have thought
    that Nikon would have made such a massive strategic error years ago in
    not producing a full frame. I am not indentured to Nikon, just very
    heavily invested. I have 11 bodies and 22 of their lenses with which
    to shoot an inferior format. That fact simply is not
    acceptable.....no..it sucks. But it also has contributed to the fact I
    have not made any Nikon purchases in over three years. My interest is
    the quality of the image, not loyalty to any company (just like I buy
    my cars) if Nikon won't deliver I have no problem going to the other
    side (no, not Sony like I was toying about). American auto
    manufactures never learned years ago they could not force products
    down the throats that Americans did not want. It is the very reason
    none may survive. If Hasselblad can make a D-39 for 27000 grand and
    sell it, Nikon can make full frame and we will buy IT.
     
    uw wayne, Mar 13, 2007
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  10. I doubt if Nikon will ever build a Full Frame digital camera. If they
    intended to, they would not have come out with their line of DX lenses that
    only work on the 3/4 frame sensors.....I believe Nikon has abandoned their
    film constituents who are keeping their good glass and waiting for a full
    frame sensor digital camera.....They are making too much money selling the
    new DX lenses, and they are never going to look back on us geezers.....:^)
     
    William Graham, Mar 13, 2007
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  11. What's wrong with using the 5D? If your Nikkors aren't "G" lenses you won't
    have any problems. Of course you forfeit AF, but that's not a problem on
    WA.
    Don't tell me you bought DX lenses? I don't see any problem with APS-C
    sensor on the long end. The D200 and D2x(s) give great results.
    And you don't think Nikon's dSLR deliver great image quality? Nikon will go
    FF very soon. Buy a 5D and a few adapters and use it till Nikon puts out
    FF. You can always throw the old 5D on eBay and recoup most of your money.





    Rita
     
    Rita Ä Berkowitz, Mar 13, 2007
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  12. Rita Ä Berkowitz

    Mark² Guest

    That logic works until you consider the fact that Canon...who offers two
    full-frame bodies in addition to their other 3 or 4 cropped bodies...also
    produces crop-sensor-only lenses: their EF-S line. Clearly they're selling
    both types well, so I see no reason why Nikon couldn't do the same.
     
    Mark², Mar 13, 2007
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  13. They will.....About a week after I'm dead......
     
    William Graham, Mar 13, 2007
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  14. Rita Ä Berkowitz

    Mark² Guest

    I don't say they will... I just say there's no reason they couldn't.
    And...hopefully you're not plannnig on dropping dead... :)
     
    Mark², Mar 13, 2007
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  15. No....but it's a standing joke I have with my wife....Everything I envision
    that I either need, or want in order to make my life easier, will happen
    right after my death....A cure for psoriasis and diabetes, well lighted
    roads that don't put glare in the eyes of the oncoming traffic, a full frame
    Nikon that will use my entire lens set, and etc, and etc......
     
    William Graham, Mar 13, 2007
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  16. Rita Ä Berkowitz

    Mark² Guest

    Whenever you're tempted by that...just remember that you might have been
    born a hundred years earlier. In that case...you likely wouldn't have lived
    to see 71... :)
     
    Mark², Mar 14, 2007
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  17. Rita Ä Berkowitz

    uw wayne Guest

    Rita, no DX lenses, but I am not going to put my 28f2, 35f1.4, 85f1.4,
    135f2, 28-70f2.8, or my 400f2.8 ,to name a few on the bodies they are
    currently making.They were manufactured for FF and that is how we want
    to use them. Time changes many things which might include Nikon
    failing to be a viable choice for the pro or very serious amature in
    the future. We shall see what we shall see..no choice, it's theirs to
    make..
     
    uw wayne, Mar 14, 2007
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  18. Rita Ä Berkowitz

    Scott W Guest

    There was a time where I said that I would not buy a DSLR until I
    could get a FF one, which means one that I could justify spending the
    money on. But then the APS sensor camera got so cheap that I could
    not past it up. I still look forward to getting a FF body at some
    point in time but for now the APS sensor is doing very well. It is
    just a bit frustrating that my 50mm lens is not as wide as I would
    like it to be, so I bought a 28mm lens. My thinking is that whereas I
    had to spend more for the 28mm to get the same FOV that a cheap 50mm
    would have given me at some point in time I will get a FF camera and
    it will be nice to have the 28mm on it, so the money spent on the 28mm
    lens is not a waste.

    And since I can get shoots with my APS DSLR and the 28mm lens that I
    could not get with film and my 50mm lens I am very happy to have the
    DSLR.

    But what we loose in the shorter lenses we gain in the longer lenses,
    so overall not a bad tradeoff.

    If I felt that the price of a FF camera was not going to come down
    from the current price for a 5D I would buy one today, but right now I
    would rather put money into lenses and wait for either the price of
    the 5D to come down a bit.

    As for what path Nikon is going to take, I am not sure even Nikon
    knows that at this point in time. It was more luck then anything else
    that I ended up with Canon, since my film slrs were Canon it made
    sense to go with a body that I had lenses for. If the shoe was on the
    other foot and it was Nikon making FF bodys and not Canon I admit I
    would be a bit upset and I would want to know that at sometime down
    the road I would be able to get a FF body.

    Scott
     
    Scott W, Mar 14, 2007
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  19. Well, if you're not going to take advantage of Nikon's current offering of
    the D200 and D2x(s) with your current lens collection, I would call that
    foolish. And I'm really surprised that you didn't mention the world famous
    17-35/2.8. Your lens collection isn't complete without it. Maybe your
    interests aren't in WA? If that is the case APS-C really shouldn't be all
    that detrimental to your shooting needs.

    I do agree with you about Nikon's current course of pushing crappy consumer
    zooms and DX lens. When Canon's Mk III was announced it gave me more
    apprehension of continuing with Nikon. I think by the end of 2007 if Nikon
    refuses to release an FF body it will be the deciding factor for most
    people. We shall see.







    Rita
     
    Rita Ä Berkowitz, Mar 14, 2007
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  20. Rita Ä Berkowitz

    sherry Guest


    Dear Graham

    I ran into your message quite accidentally while researching about
    some details on 'Diabetes'
    and thought of sharing some of my findings.
    I've read at 'http://www.medical-health-care-information.com/Health-
    living/Diabetes/index.asp'
    that Diabetes is a set of related diseases in which the body cannot
    regulate the amount of sugar (glucose) in the blood. In diabetes,
    glucose in the blood cannot move into cells, and it stays in the
    blood. This not only harms the cells that need the glucose for fuel,
    but also harms certain organs and tissues exposed to the high glucose
    levels.

    I hope the above is of some help to you as well. Regards, Sherrybove.
     
    sherry, Mar 14, 2007
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