US Television shows and skin tones

Discussion in 'Photography' started by D.R., Nov 19, 2004.

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    D.R. Guest

    /rant
    I have come to the conclusion that the US TV producers couldn't give a toss
    about skin tones. I have seen far too many orange faces on US TV shows. The
    colours are super-saturated beyond all realism. Nice effect maybe in some cases,
    except for the skin tones.
    /end rant

    :)
     
    D.R., Nov 19, 2004
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    Carl Guest

    In Uk we reckon that the US NTSC system stands for
    "Never Twice the Same Colour"
     
    Carl, Nov 19, 2004
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    Stan Guest

    Try adjusting your TV color, tint, brightness and contrast.


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    Stan, Nov 20, 2004
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    Deadeye Guest

    It's probably your television. I have been watching TV for years... I
    don't have that problem. I have seen it many times, always on a TV
    that has the hue, saturation, and brightness turned full up.

    It ain't the signal, it's the display.
     
    Deadeye, Nov 20, 2004
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    D.R. Guest

    It's not the TV. We have 3 good tellies. In NZ (Pal) our local TV is fine.
    Pretty much all UK TV shows are in realistic colour. Coro street is an example
    of real-life colour. Most Aussie TV is also fine. Some newer Aussie TV has
    over-the-top colour though. Most US, except a handful of documentaries are
    mega-saturated. Worst example that comes to mind is "Smallville". I have noticed
    that some NZ shows (TV3 news) are now starting to follow suit and going for the
    orange skintone thing.
     
    D.R., Nov 20, 2004
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    D.R. Guest

    Most NZ, UK, Australian shows are fine. Colours temperature normal. Saturation
    realistic. It's just that many US shows now look like they are filming with the
    equivalent of Fuji Velvia 50. Never really noticed it before taking up
    photography. Previously, thought the colours looked cool and "processed
    looking". Now I notice that although most looks great, skin tones have gone out
    the window. Check out Smallville for example.
     
    D.R., Nov 20, 2004
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    rufref Guest

    I did not know the FCC allows skin to show on TV....unless it is for Viagra
    commercials.

    tom
     
    rufref, Nov 20, 2004
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    BillB Guest

    In the USA people on news and talk shows routinely have makeup
    applied to slightly darken skin tones and perhaps move in the
    direction from glossy to matte. Could that be part of what you're
    seeing? I also noticed a singer on a DVD appeared on several
    tracks looking fairly pale (her natural coloration, perhaps
    emphasized by the director). But she looked best on another track
    where she resembled a ripe mango.
     
    BillB, Nov 20, 2004
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    Stan Guest

    I notice that there are times when some channels, and even some videos
    clips within a TV broadcast, may be over saturated or under saturated.
    This can be from a number of reasons: calibration of camera or recording
    equipment, calibration of station monitors, signal broadcast modulation
    levels and/or signal strength.

    It has been common for broadcasters to increase modulation for
    commercial advertising, to boost the audio level. This is because they
    know that people get up and leave the room during commercials.

    Another possibility is that conversion between NTSC and PAL is not
    necessarily as neat as people would like to believe.

    You should direct your issues to the broadcasters in your area.


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    Diluted Guest

    Coro street is an example
    its an example of colour, but not real life 8^P
     
    Diluted, Nov 20, 2004
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  11. It's not your imagination, or your television. In the United States, using
    NTSC, there are no firm standards when it comes to color saturation or any
    other non-critical aspect of television (which is why television commercials
    are often much louder than the surrounding program). To make matters worse,
    several are involved in the selection of these things, including the camera
    operators, show's producers, duplicating distributers, the local broadcast
    or cable station, and so on. As such, you'll see great differences between
    shows and between channels. Adjusting your television set is an option, but
    can be frustrating with differences between almost every show and every
    channel.

    By the way, what we have now, with NTSC, compares to what you might see
    with print film processing, where the photographer, camera filters, film
    selection, and processing lab, all impact the final print. As such, you can
    expect different results when any one of these are changed.

    Stewart
     
    Dwight Stewart, Nov 21, 2004
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    C J Campbell Guest

    Hollywood thinks orange skin looks healthy. Americans don't like the pale
    blue people that they see on 'foreign' television, unless they are rock
    stars.
     
    C J Campbell, Nov 21, 2004
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  13. Yep. As you allude to, another component is America's current aversion to
    sunlight, resulting in a growing number of actors with nearly colorless
    complexions. To improve the appearance of these pale ghosts, some
    photographers use a warming filter. While this works when properly handled,
    one can end up with overly orange, somewhat cartoon looking, people if done
    poorly. To add to the madness, some actors, to add color to their own skin,
    use chemical tanning solutions which appear orange with photographed. When a
    person like this is filmed next to a person without an orange glow,
    adjusting proper color can be nearly impossible.

    Stewart
     
    Dwight Stewart, Nov 22, 2004
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    Alex Guest

    I couldn't believe the bright orange skin tones of the House premiere.
    I'm sure that it was a mistake though - it didn't add to the
    atmosphere at all.
     
    Alex, Nov 24, 2004
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