USA Recall of Nikon Batteries

Discussion in 'Photography' started by Mort, Jul 12, 2012.

  1. Mort

    Mort Guest

    Hi,

    I just got a bulletin from a USA government agency that Nikon EN-EL 15
    lithium ion batteries have been recalled due to a fire hazard. The
    batches that are bad have the letter E or F as the ninth character in
    their serial number. They were supplied with or for the Nikon D800 and
    D7000 SLR cameras.

    Mort Linder
     
    Mort, Jul 12, 2012
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    Savageduck Guest

    Mort,
    This is one of those times a cross post instead of a multiple post
    would have been appropriate.

    I think it would probably be best to follow the instructions and advice
    from NikonUSA.
    <
    http://www.nikonusa.com/Service-And.../EN-EL15-Battery-Recall-Service-Advisory.html
     
    Savageduck, Jul 12, 2012
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  3. Mort

    Mort Guest

    Hi,

    Forgive me, for I do not know what a cross post is, except that I often
    see a person admonished for doing one. Please explain the difference
    between a cross post and a multiple post.

    Thank you.

    Mort Linder
     
    Mort, Jul 12, 2012
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    Robert Coe Guest

    : Savageduck wrote:
    : > This is one of those times a cross post instead of a multiple post would
    : > have been appropriate.
    :
    : Hi,
    :
    : Forgive me, for I do not know what a cross post is, except that I often
    : see a person admonished for doing one. Please explain the difference
    : between a cross post and a multiple post.

    A cross post is when you send a single message addressed to two or more
    newsgroups. This gives the recipient's newsreader the opportunity to save only
    one copy of the message, to mark it read in all newsgroups when the recipient
    reads it in one, etc. Some newsreaders do all that, and some don't; but at
    least you make it possible.

    Multiple posts (as the term is used in this context) is sending the same
    message, but with presumably different message numbers, to two or more
    newsgroups separately. The recipient's newsreader usually won't recognize the
    messages as identical and will have to handle them separately, which uses more
    space and is usually less convenient.

    Multiple posts should be avoided when possible, but cross posts, while they
    can appear redundant, are generally harmless unless the recipient is using an
    ancient newsreader. Most who complain about cross posts are just being anal.

    Bob
     
    Robert Coe, Jul 12, 2012
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  5. Mort

    tony cooper Guest

    And, it's usually the nature of the post itself that results in
    negative comments. A cross-post that contains worthwhile information
    shouldn't be criticized.
     
    tony cooper, Jul 12, 2012
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  6. Mort

    Savageduck Guest

    A correct cross post is used when the subject is "On Topic" (OT)or
    within the charter for more than one news group. In the case of the
    subject of your post it is appropriately OT for both alt.photography &
    rec.photo.digital, there is one more group which would also have been
    appropriate.

    Many of the usual suspects following the photo-newsgroups follow more
    than one. So when the same OT post shows up in more than one Newsgroup
    it is considered a multiple post. The problem becomes one of continuity
    when an individual who only reads one of those newsgroups responds in
    that newsgroup, when that response would have been appropriate in all
    related NGs.

    In the case of this thread. I first read your original post in
    rec.photo.digital and responded. I was then faced with the same
    multiple posted message in alt.photography. The result being that my
    response in rec.photo.digital which would have also been OT for
    alt.photography would not have been available to an individual who only
    read alt.photography.

    By using proper cross posting you have made a single post which is On
    Topic for both Newsgroups and responders who only read in one Newsgroup
    can follow the full chronology and continuity of the thread.

    There is improper use of the cross post.
    First there is overuse of the cross post, It is going to be tough to
    find more than four Newsgroups where a single topic would be truly "On
    Topic". So the usual tolerance level for most folks is a limit of four
    groups in a cross posted message, think SPAM. Many of us write filters
    to weed out posts cross posted to five or more groups.
    Then there is cross posting to unrelated Newsgroups, for example
    posting your thread to alt.photography, alt.pets.rabbits, and
    alt.food.mexican. This is a no-no!

    this is a much debated subject and there are those among us who would
    disrupt appropriate cross posting by undermining the intentions of the
    Original Poster (OP) by changing the reply routing recreating the
    problem of the multiple post. The issue of inappropriate cross posting
    is quite polarizing amongst various readers of the Usenet and can cause
    disruptive flame wars between various individuals.

    Here is an interesting take on the subject;
    < http://www.cs.tut.fi/~jkorpela/usenet/xpost.html >

    Another volatile issue is the subject of top, bottom, & interleafed posting.
    A simple rule of thumb is bottom or interleaf post in Usenet to
    maintain continuity and chronology. Top or interleaf post in email
    responses.
    < http://www.idallen.com/topposting.html >
     
    Savageduck, Jul 12, 2012
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    Rob Guest

    And here's me thinking all that time, when a person marks a subject line
    with OT meaning that the subject was Off Topic.

    Why would anyone denote OT as being On Topic within a newsgroup?
     
    Rob, Jul 12, 2012
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    Savageduck Guest

    ....and you are correct sir!
    OT as a Usenet abbreviation is somewhat vague, given the "On" or "Off"
    or"Original" designation handed to the letter "O". Then there is the
    letter "P" used for "Poster" or "Post".
    I have always understood the use of "OT" in the subject line to
    indicate the subject was "Off Topic" for that particular NG. However,
    context in the body of a post can effect usage.
    Try this:
    "The OP in his OT OP, was able to defend against accusations that his
    OP was OT, by demonstrating that it was indeed OT."

    Usenet speak is bizarre indeed. ;-)
     
    Savageduck, Jul 12, 2012
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    Rob Guest

    then you get Net - not even true
     
    Rob, Jul 12, 2012
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  10. Mort

    Alan Browne Guest

    Amusing how all the replies on cross/multiple posts swamps the issue of
    the recall.
     
    Alan Browne, Jul 12, 2012
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  11. Mort

    Savageduck Guest

    Seeing as there are so far, only 7 batteries reported as problematic,
    no surprise at all.
     
    Savageduck, Jul 12, 2012
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  12. B-b-but what if I photograph turning pet rabbits into mexican food?
    Wouldn't that be on topic in all 3 groups?

    -Wolf'SCNR'gang
     
    Wolfgang Weisselberg, Jul 13, 2012
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  13. Mort

    Mort Guest

    Hi,

    Thanks for the nice explanations. I speak 6 languages, but computer
    seems not to be one of them. I will endeavour to post properly in the
    future.

    Mort
     
    Mort, Jul 13, 2012
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  14. Mort

    Savageduck Guest

    A perfect example of an exception to my demonstration of the rule.
    That would certainly be an exceptional case of a subject being OT
    across NGs with divergent charters.

    ....now let's see somebody try that. However, I think that the inclusion
    of a binary group into the mix, might just shoot the proposition down
    in flames. ;-)
     
    Savageduck, Jul 13, 2012
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  15. It would also be as welcome as a rabbit^Wrabid tax collector to
    those who love their pet rabbits.
    Well, you supply the rabbit, I supply the camera and then we
    need someone to supply the recipe and do the cooking ...
    Hmmm ... we need binary rabbits and binary food then ...

    -Wolfgang
     
    Wolfgang Weisselberg, Jul 13, 2012
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