Using Polarizing Filter With Skylight Filter

Discussion in '35mm Cameras' started by Michael Yates, Jun 27, 2006.

  1. I just picked up a Hoya 49mm circular polarizer. The question I pose to you
    is this, I use Hoya Skylight 1B filters on my 55mm and 135mm lenses. I've
    read that with wide angle lenses you shouldn't use additional filters with
    the polarizer. But with the 55mm and upwards am I at risk of vignetting if I
    use the skylight as well as the polarizer?

    Firstly I put the polarizer right over the skylight, but then thought if I
    put the skylight over the polarizer it would be good for protection mainly,
    but also warming the image slightly since the polarizer loses a stop or
    two..
    Am I heading for bad news?
     
    Michael Yates, Jun 27, 2006
    #1
    1. Advertisements

  2. Michael Yates

    Annika1980 Guest

    Why not just wrap the lens in plastic?

    Any time you put more glass between the lens and the subject you are
    degrading the image. Sometimes the difference is small and may be
    unnoticeable, but why risk it?
    Shouldn't the goal be to get the best performance you can out of your
    lens?
     
    Annika1980, Jun 27, 2006
    #2
    1. Advertisements

  3. What kind of plastic do you mean?
    I want to get the best performance but also the lowest risk of damaging the
    polarizer or the lens itself.
    How much does a polarizer degrade the image compared to a skylight filter?

    I was under the impression that the skylight filter doesnt detract hardly
    anything compared to a polarizer, and a skylight filter could possibly warm
    the darker image that the polarizer is providing.

    I thought it was worth asking.
    thanks for the reply
     
    Michael Yates, Jun 27, 2006
    #3
  4. Michael Yates

    Eric Miller Guest

    Bret does have a point, after all, the lowest risk of damaging the polarizer
    or the lens is to keep them in their boxes and in a safe deposit box
    somewhere. But if you want the effects that a filter provides, use a filter.
    If you want the effects of multiple filters, use multiple filters. If the
    only way that you will feel comfortable enough to walk outside with your
    lens is to put a "protective" filter on it, then by all means, put a
    protective filter on it. It will affect your image quality, but if that is
    the price that you pay for being mentally and emotionally able to get out
    and shoot pictures, then so be it. For what it's worth, I have never put a
    "protective" filter on any of my lenses and in 25 years of photography have
    never damaged a front element, and I'm not the most careful person around. A
    lens hood might afford all the protection you need, a watertight case and a
    wetsuit might not. Only you can figure that out. Why not try shooting photos
    with and without and see if the difference matters to you?

    Eric Miller
     
    Eric Miller, Jun 27, 2006
    #4
  5. Michael Yates

    Annika1980 Guest

    What he said! My point was don't be so paranoid. A good lens hood
    will keep the dog from licking the lens. A skylight filter is pretty
    much useless. You want to protect your lens, use a lens cap.

    Having said that, I can see using a skylight filter if you were
    shooting a NASCAR race with all the stuff blowing up off the track.
    Also, a sandstorm or a hurricane might be other times that a filter
    could save the glass from getting scratched, but I don't shoot much of
    those either.

    As for the light loss and image degradation from a skylight filter, it
    is minimal at best. But you could introduce more flare by using one.
    Forget the skylight filter.
    Use the polaraizer as the protective filter if you must. At least it
    serves a second function.
     
    Annika1980, Jun 27, 2006
    #5
  6. Michael Yates

    Jimbo Guest

    Shouldn't have a probelem - but film is cheap - try it on a few shots
    and see for yourself.


    Love CPs - I do use a skylight or UV filter when not using a "fancy"
    filter - just makes sense - the one guy responded he never ruined a
    lens - good for him - I'm not rich so a small amount of protectiojn
    doesn't hurt - and if I don't want the skylight filter on for the shot
    - I take it off, shoot, put it back on.

    Now as for a CP and a skylight together - I don't think the skylight
    does much for you, and doubtful you'll see any difference with or
    without it - but then again - take 2 shots of the same composition,
    shutter, and f-stop settings - both with the CP, but one with the
    Skylight - see if you see any difference that's worth the effort.

    Jim
     
    Jimbo, Jun 27, 2006
    #6
  7. Michael Yates

    Scott W Guest

    Some of us have to also worry about salt spray.
    http://www.pbase.com/konascott/image/62581512

    At times the air is so full of salt spray that it only takes an instant
    to give the lens a nice coating of salt.

    Scott
     
    Scott W, Jun 27, 2006
    #7
  8. Michael Yates

    Jimbo Guest

    Ahhhh - really - so you live near the beach - lucky dog! Are these salt
    sprays a result of crashing waves and the breeze? I assume that there
    is the added worry of sand in those breezes?
     
    Jimbo, Jun 27, 2006
    #8
  9. Michael Yates

    Scott W Guest

    Very little sand seems to get in the air even at the beachs, we just
    don't get the very strong winds that are needed to kick up the sand
    very often.

    But yes the salt gets in the air from crashing waves, and pretty much
    the waves are always crashing to some extent and there is pretty much
    always some salt in the air.

    At night you can see the spray drifting across the road when it is lit
    up by headlights.

    Scott
     
    Scott W, Jun 27, 2006
    #9
  10. Yes....And it gets in the underbody of your automobiles, and, in fact, into
    every piece of equipment you own, from lawnmowers to Leicas........
     
    William Graham, Jun 27, 2006
    #10
  11. Michael Yates

    Scott W Guest

    Yup, everything rusts here.

    Of course we also have the volcano putting out 1,000 tons of sulfur
    dioxide each day so that does not help either.

    Scott
     
    Scott W, Jun 27, 2006
    #11
  12. Michael Yates

    Jimbo Guest

    where are you located?
     
    Jimbo, Jun 27, 2006
    #12
  13. Michael Yates

    Scott W Guest

    Hawaii on the Big Island on the Kona side.

    Scott
     
    Scott W, Jun 27, 2006
    #13
  14. Michael Yates

    MadHatter Guest


    Speaking of salt spray, how's this?...
    http://www.pbase.com/madhatter/image/55307873
    http://www.pbase.com/madhatter/image/55302672

    I hardly ever use a "protective" filter, but I did use UV filters when
    I was around the geyser areas at Yellowstone last year.
     
    MadHatter, Jun 27, 2006
    #14
  15. Michael Yates

    Jim Guest

    There is no reason to use a skylight filter and a polarizing filter at the
    same time.
    Jim
     
    Jim, Jun 28, 2006
    #15
  16. Hummmm.....They used to bubble sulphor dioxide through solutions in the
    chemistry lab in order to precipitate compounds out of solution....I wonder
    what would happen if you guys were to capture some of that stuff and bubble
    it through the sea water...Would it precipitate anything valuable out of the
    ocean? - If so, you might be able to make some money with it.......
     
    William Graham, Jun 28, 2006
    #16
  17. Come to think of it, it may be Hydrogen Sulfide that I am thinking
    of.........Smelled like rotten eggs.....
     
    William Graham, Jun 28, 2006
    #17
  18. Michael Yates

    Annika1980 Guest

    Isn't that the function of the lens cap?
     
    Annika1980, Jun 28, 2006
    #18
  19. Michael Yates

    Jimbo Guest

    Can't shoot with the lens cap on!

    My statement involves the use of some kind of filter over the lens
    being that replacing a $20-30 filter is cheaper than a $300-500 lens.
     
    Jimbo, Jun 28, 2006
    #19
  20. Michael Yates

    Jim Guest

    If you've paid much attention to lenses for sale on ebay, many of them
    have bent filter threads. A UV or skylight would likely prevent most
    of
    these types of damage.
     
    Jim, Jun 28, 2006
    #20
    1. Advertisements

Ask a Question

Want to reply to this thread or ask your own question?

You'll need to choose a username for the site, which only take a couple of moments (here). After that, you can post your question and our members will help you out.