Using TMPGEnc and Ulead DVD Workshop - A Mystery . . .

Discussion in 'Amateur Video Production' started by CrazyVamp, Apr 15, 2004.

  1. CrazyVamp

    CrazyVamp Guest

    Hey guys,

    Hoping someone can help me. I have been doing the same thing for
    creating DVDs for a while yet, and recently - for no reason I can see,
    it doesn't seem to work anymore.

    Basically, I use TMPGEnc to convert my DivX movies to SVCD/DVD format
    and then use Ulead DVD Workshop to create my DVDs. I know Workshop
    also does conversion, but TMPGEnc does a hell of a lot better job in
    my opinion. In the past, when I have done this, and then gone on to
    build my DVD through Workshop, Workshop will go through Video and
    Audio conversion in a few seconds, because the newly converted movies
    are compatible. I have created a couple of templates in TMPGEnc to
    exactly match the Disc Templates available in DVD Workshop.

    OK, but recently when doing this, Workshop wants to convert them
    anyway, and I can't see why. I use AVIcodec to compare the MPGs I have
    created with what the templates in DVD Workshop ask for, and its
    identical. But for some reason, it goes through Video and Audio
    conversion anyway - with much less success in quality I might add.

    If it means anything, the original DivX files are different. For
    example, this is what I have so far.

    Movie 1:
    Video : 600 MB, 912 Kbps, 23.976 fps, 576*320 (16:9), XVID = XVID
    Mpeg-4, Supported
    Audio : 99 MB, 150 Kbps, 48000 Hz, 2 channels, 0x55 = MPEG Layer-3,

    Movie 2:
    Video : 620 MB, 899 Kbps, 23.976 fps, 640*352 (16:9), XVID = XVID
    Mpeg-4, Supported
    Audio : 67 MB, 97 Kbps, 32000 Hz, 2 channels, 0x55 = MPEG Layer-3,

    Movie 3:
    Video : 615 MB, 907 Kbps, 23.999 fps, 592*340 (16:9), DIV3 = DivX v3
    MPEG-4 (Low-Motion), Supported
    Audio : 87 MB, 128 Kbps, 44100 Hz, 2 channels, 0x55 = MPEG Layer-3,

    Before you ask, I have the latest DivX and XVid codecs installed.

    Last night, I compared the temporary MPG files that DVD Workshop has
    created for me, with the MPGs I created with TMPGEnc and the stats are
    identical (even if the quality is worse). I don't understand what
    could be the problem.

    Any suggestions would be helpful.

    CrazyVamp, Apr 15, 2004
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    Jerry Jones Guest

    Divx encoded files are not DVD compliant.

    So Ulead DVD Workshop will re-encode any file that does not comply
    with DVD disc standards.

    If you are converting the files using TMPGEnc prior to importing the
    files into Ulead DVD Workshop, then what are the precise properties of
    the converted files?

    For example, I sometimes work with MPEG-2 files that have been
    converted from DV .avi files.

    My files have the following precise properties:

    NTSC drop frame (29.97 fps)
    MPEG files
    24 Bits, 720 x 480, 29.97 fps
    Field Order A
    (DVD-NTSC), 4:3
    Video data rate: Variable (Max. 8264 kbps)
    LPCM Audio, 48 KHz, Stereo

    How do the properties of your own files compare?

    What I do is adjust DVD Workshop's project settings to match the
    properties of my source video - and no re-encoding occurs.

    I explain how this is done in my step-by-step guide:

    Hope this helps,

    Jerry Jones
    Jerry Jones, Apr 16, 2004
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