Variable Density is better that Variable Area

Discussion in '35mm Cameras' started by Radium, May 31, 2007.

  1. Radium

    Radium Guest

    Hi:

    http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&...io+optical+track+variable-density&btnG=Search

    Variable-Density is far better than variable-area. WTF did they even
    develop variable-are?. VA stinks. VD is the best type of analog
    optical film audio.

    Hail to VD. Death to VA.

    Also, let's make a ban on producing any magnetic film audio. Only
    optical film audio.

    Hail to optical tracks. Death to magnetic tracks.


    Regards,

    Radium
     
    Radium, May 31, 2007
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    Mr.T Guest

    But is it as good as "Creative FM synth 220" that's the real question? :)
    :) :)

    MrT.
     
    Mr.T, May 31, 2007
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  3. Radium

    Radium Guest

    "Creative Music Synth" is a MIDI synth. It has nothing to do with the
    topic of the thread. Yes CMS is my favorite synth but that irrelevant.
    I am not talking about MIDI audio. Just regular audio. Please stay on
    topic.
     
    Radium, May 31, 2007
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  4. Radium

    Mr.T Guest

    Yes we already know you are as humour impaired as you are technically
    illiterate, but I thought three smileys might have given you a clue.
    I guess not.

    MrT.
     
    Mr.T, May 31, 2007
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  5. Radium

    Ken Layton Guest

    Some films, like the Scopitones only exist with magnetic soundtracks.
    They never made opticals.


    Variable Density is good, but try to get a lab to print one nowadays.

    VD is like FM radio.

    VA is like AM radio.
     
    Ken Layton, May 31, 2007
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    Steve Kraus Guest

    Variable Density is good, but try to get a lab to print one nowadays.
    Isn't VD inherently noisier because you're working right in the medium
    densities that show film grain? In VA the black occludes grain and clear
    doesn't have it but graininess would affect the edges of the tracks so I
    don't know but it would seem like it would be better.
     
    Steve Kraus, May 31, 2007
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    J. Theakston Guest

    Yeah, I hope you get VD, too.

    Have a nice day :)

    J. Theakston
     
    J. Theakston, May 31, 2007
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  8. One theory is that an occlusion (as from a spot of dust) is less
    of the complete information across a slice of variable-density
    than the equivalent on a slice of variable-area. OTOH, variable-
    area are immune from dust on the dark portion, so more likely
    a tossup.

    I believe the picture (on the same film stock) requires much more
    resolution than the audio is capable of.
     
    Richard Crowley, May 31, 2007
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    Mat Overton Guest

    Variable-Density is far better than variable-area. WTF did they even
    Except to seeing 2001 in 70mm and six track mag sound with added dolby noise
    reduction (on a cinerama screen)......

    :)
     
    Mat Overton, May 31, 2007
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    Alan Browne Guest

    Radium wrote:

    PLONK (for X-posting)
     
    Alan Browne, Jun 1, 2007
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  11. Plonks should be categorized....Like a category one plonk is a content
    plonk, and a category two plonk should be a wording plonk. (dirty language
    and the like) And, a category three plonk a method plonk. (like cross
    posting)
     
    William Graham, Jun 1, 2007
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  12. "William Graham" wrote ...
    I think "Radium" qualifies as his own category.
    The only remarkable thing these days is that anybody is still reading
    his/her/its effluvia.
     
    Richard Crowley, Jun 1, 2007
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    peterh5322 Guest

    1) VD OTN stock and processing is nearly impossible to obtain, today.

    2) VA OTN stock and processing has been the de-facto standard for the
    past three decades. VD is dead, dead, dead. Get used to it.
     
    peterh5322, Jun 1, 2007
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  14. Radium

    Radium Guest

    How much do I have to pay, if I want it?
    What are the logical reasons for such? My guess is politics and money.
    VD maybe older technology but it still kicks VA's @$$. Much in the
    same way Creative Music Synth [old SB16 FM synth] is better than M$ GS
    Wavetable SW Synth. Newer doesn't necessarily mean more advantageous.

    Some @$$holes decided it's a good idea to make VA technology, and then
    the whole world [being gullible as the world is] fell for that crap.
    As a result, the golden VD technology was left behind.
     
    Radium, Jun 1, 2007
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  15. Radium

    Radium Guest

    The noise in VD is a mouth-watering, delicious, paradisiacal crackling
    [due to tiny black spots on the film] similar the baking of garlic
    bread in a clay oven full of hot bituminous coals.

    The noise in VA is a hellish stink of stinky, thick, foamy, tickly,
    itchy, hissy, terrifying, disgusting, and annoying fart of a human who
    eats stale, fat-free cheddar cheese, sticky milk chocolate, rotten
    lentils, and decaying cauliflower.
     
    Radium, Jun 1, 2007
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  16. Radium

    Radium Guest


    Still...

    The audio in an optical track is a mouth-watering, delicious,
    paradisiacal crackling [due to tiny black spots on the film] similar
    the baking of garlic bread in a clay oven full of hot bituminous
    coals.

    The fart of a magnetic track is a hellish stink of stinky, thick,
    foamy, tickly, itchy, hissy, terrifying, disgusting, and annoying
    human kakaa-gas of a human who eats stale, fat-free cheddar cheese,
    sticky milk chocolate, rotten lentils, and decaying cauliflower.
     
    Radium, Jun 1, 2007
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    Karl Uppiano Guest

    [...]
    Can you say synesthesia?
     
    Karl Uppiano, Jun 1, 2007
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  18. GO AWAY....

    --
    Martin Harrington
    www.lendanear-sound.com
    0414 913 247

     
    Martin Harrington, Jun 1, 2007
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    Mr.T Guest

    Yes very similar, all four are obsolete technology not worth arguing about.
    Is dog shit better than horse shit? Does anyone besides you really care?

    MrT.
     
    Mr.T, Jun 1, 2007
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  20. Obsolete? The entire motion-picture industry would disagree.

    Modern VA optical tracks can actually sound really good with LED
    readers and Dolby SR (real SR, not the crappy cat. 222 "SR"/A).
     
    Scott Norwood, Jun 1, 2007
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