Vegas Pro 12 verses Premiere Pro CS6

Discussion in 'Amateur Video Production' started by Brian, Dec 23, 2012.

  1. Brian

    Brian Guest

    I try to find the manual on the internet as I prefer to read the manual to
    find out more about the product. Had not had much luck in finding a manual
    for Adobe Premiere CS6 so far.

    Tthe Mpeg option was missing on a earlier version but has been added to the
    latest version after people could not check its rending in Mpeg. I don't
    like crippled software as you can't check out the whole program.
     
    Brian, Jan 6, 2013
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  2. I don't like software that's overpriced, either...!
    (I got off the expensive Adobe "update-treadmill"
    years ago. 8^) BTW, Vegas has good video tutorials
    on their web site at www.SonyCreativeSoftware under
    "Support", and the Vegas help files are very good,
    BUT, only ***IF*** one knows "Sony-speak" (Sony's
    terms for common things are often very non-standard,
    which can make it sometimes difficult to find what you
    are looking for in the help files when doing a search
    there).
    --DR
     
    David Ruether, Jan 6, 2013
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  3. Brian

    Brian Guest

    Thanks David.

    The YouTube site is another place where you can find tutorials and reviews
    on almost anything. There are some good professional tutorials on YouTube
    as well. Now that high resolution is possible on YouTube, looking at a
    screen of Vegas etc is much more easier to see. The Lynda tutorials are
    very good but are not free. www.lynda.com.
     
    Brian, Jan 7, 2013
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  4. Brian

    Brian Guest

    Ops I spoke too early as it looks like the Mpeg rendering option is missing
    in version 6.0.2 of Adobe Premiere Pro CS6.
    I can't see how you can text a video editing program if you can't render in
    Mpeg. If one thing you don't know if the program is fast or slow when
    rendering to a mpeg file.
     
    Brian, Jan 7, 2013
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  5. Brian

    Brian Guest

    I decided to re-install Premiere Pro CS6 and this time I had access to the
    MPEG rendering options, so must have been a glitch in the system then I
    first installed it.

    One major problem I found when dragging a MTS file to the time line is that
    the audio part of the video clip always goes to audio track 4 and stays
    there. i can't move the audio to another audio track. This seems to be a
    problem with the MTS type video as a MP4 video does not have this problem.
    There is no problem in moving the video part of the clip to another video
    track.

    The only work around I found after experimenting is to delete audio tracks
    1 to 3 and rename audio track 4 to audio track 1 then drag the audio track
    so it creates and goes to audio track 4. I then rename audio track 4 to
    audio track 2 and repeat my steps to create move audio tracks that I can
    move the audio to.

    Has anyone encountered this problem as it still could be a problem with my
    computer?
     
    Brian, Jan 10, 2013
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  6. Brian

    Brian Guest


    The first impressions after checking out the latest versions of Sony Vegas
    Pro and Adobe Premiere Pro is that Premiere seems to be trying to catch up
    the Vegas as some of the additions in the latest version of Premiere were
    already added to version 10 of Vegas. Vegas seems to be ahead as in the
    latest version it has added featured of its own and is not just copying
    from other video editors.
    However Premiere does do its job well and both these video editors preform
    very well.

    I'm not happy about Adobe trying to sell Premiere bundled with its own
    software and not as a separate program. The price just got higher. Vegas
    has a better price.

    The main fault I found with Premiere CS6.0.3 was that when you drag a MTS
    file to the time line then the audio always goes to track 4 and you can't
    move the audio to another track.

    A feature lacking in Premiere is that you can't load a video from a DVD
    that has VOB files. I had a converted 8mm file that was put on a video DVD
    which I could not load into Premiere.
     
    Brian, Jan 13, 2013
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  7. In Premiere Pro, audio tracks are particular to mono, stereo, or
    surround. If you have an existing timeline that has, for example, three
    stereo tracks, and then you drag a clip with surround or mono audio, it
    goes to a fourth track. Is that what you are doing?

    Bob
     
    Bob Fleischer, Jan 15, 2013
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  8. Brian

    Brian Guest

    Thanks Bob.

    The video has surround sound (5.1 sound). When dragging a video to the
    timeline the audio will appear on track 4. When I move the video to track 1
    the audio does not move but remains on track 4. I try to move the audio to
    another audio track such as audio track 1 but it won't move from track 4.
    Maybe its the way that I have setup Premiere for the project. There might
    be some settings in the project settings for audio.
     
    Brian, Jan 16, 2013
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  9. I've just had a look in my CS6 and the razor key is "C", then "V" to
    get back to the selection tool. I never thought to look for a short
    cut until I read these posts. :)
     
    Kevin Donoghoe, Feb 3, 2013
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  10. Brian

    Brian Guest

    When I was checking out both programs I came to the conclusion that both
    offer useful features but Vegas seemed to be more advanced in features than
    Premiere. Some of the new features added to the Premiere CS6 were already
    available in the older version 10 of Vegas Pro. Premiere are still using
    old techniques such as a razor icon to cut the video, I suspect it was used
    so that those that were use to using a razor to slice film could adjust to
    Premiere a bit easier, but Premiere seems to keep its older ways of doing
    things. Some things such as choosing from a range of fade curves for a
    transition were lacking in Premiere. In version 12 of Vegas the rolling
    edit feature from Premiere has been added to Vegas. Maybe in time with
    features added to each other there will be little difference between these
    two powerful video editors.
     
    Brian, Feb 21, 2013
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    rmartin215 Guest

    It is now the middle of May, 2013. I have had premiere cs6 (creative cloud)for one year. "Long spanned" clips cannot be processed, at least those from my Panasonic 130 and 160. On the adobe forums, some of which are basically soap operas, there seems to be the implication that this bug will be fixed, "soon." But since it has been a year, I am thinking of changing, but have been with premiere since CS2. Supposedly, Adobe is trying to lure FCP users -- and have been somewhat successful as far as I can see -- and in theprocess seem to be ignoring their old customers. Is Vegas really comparable?

    Thanks.

    Randall Martin
     
    rmartin215, May 15, 2013
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  12. Brian

    Brian Guest

    From what I've observed in trying both Adobe Premiere CS6 and Vegas Pro 12
    is that Vegas is more advanced in features than Premiere. I could tailor
    the video better with Vegas to do exactly what I wanted. For example I get
    a choice of more than one fade curve so I can make a slow change at the
    start of the transition, a fast change mid way and a slow change at the end
    of the transition. Vegas does things differently than Adobe so there will
    be some things you would need to learn but after using Vegas for a while I
    had no major problem in using Premiere as the Basic functions were similar.
    There was a major change to the format of the elements programs such as
    photoshop elements and Adobe Elements but Adobe seem to leave Premiere in
    the same format not to upset its users I suspect. I also found it easier to
    do some things in Vegas compared to Premiere.
    Vegas is just as powerful as Premiere for getting he job done.
     
    Brian, May 16, 2013
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  13. When I edited with Premiere (w-a-y back in the "bad old days"...;-),
    I spent MANY hours trying to (point-by-point) manually draw cross-fade
    curves for best dissolves. With Vegas, just shoving two clips together
    with the default "double-S" curves works well maybe 95% of the time,
    with the options for the remaining times of choosing from among many
    other presets or of drawing my own quickly (SO much EASIER!;-). And,
    as you pointed out, it is easy to make graphically-complex titles of
    great variety using even the most basic title app. of a few available
    within Vegas. Overall, Vegas is a professional editor, logically
    organized, with most aspects being easily key-framed. And, the "price
    is right" compared with much of the competition. I do have a couple
    of complaints about Vegas, though: the terms used within the program
    are often in "Sony-speak" and non-standard (making it difficult to
    use the otherwise excellent help files), and Vegas tends to be very
    buggy with a new version release (I put those on the shelf after
    buying them at the $150 introductory price and wait for the free
    updates/bug-fixes to be available before loading them...). I find,
    though, that the versatility offered by this program (at least for
    what I use it for) to be well worth putting up with its few quirks.
    BTW, Vegas has a 30-day free trial (as do others), during which it
    is not "crippled" in any way - but it can take quite a while to
    discover many of its less-obvious abilities. Also BTW, there are
    excellent Vegas tutorials (both basic and advanced) at --
    www.sonycreativesoftware.com under "Support", plus a good forum
    of users to answer questions, also under "Support".
    --DR
     
    David Ruether, May 16, 2013
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