Verichrome Pan processing

Discussion in 'Darkroom Developing and Printing' started by mp, Aug 28, 2004.

  1. mp

    mp Guest

    I still have 5 bricks and a bit of 120 Verichrome Pan that I'm either going
    to use or put up for sale (email privately if interested). I was using PMK
    to process the negs but never really was able to get consistent, evenly
    developed negs despite trying all sorts of tricks. Half the time the negs
    turned out great, half the time there were processing irregularities such as
    uneven density. And yes, I do have the book of Pyro and am very careful with
    measurements, consistent agitation, timing, etc.

    Since everything is now scanned, perhaps a staining developer is of
    questionable benefit and something less toxic without requiring a post soak
    is appealing. Can anyone suggest any off-the shelf developers? Has anyone
    tried Rodinal with VP?

    -mp
     
    mp, Aug 28, 2004
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  2. That Verichrome Pan is probably just old -- you'd best send it to me for
    proper disposal. ;)

    In all seriousness, if you don't want it, I'd be happy to put it through
    my Kodak Reflex II, develop in HC-110 Dilution G, and enjoy the results.
    After I'm settled from next week's move (should be all under control
    by October), I'd love to buy as much of it as I can afford -- it's been
    20+ years since I've shot VP; I was away from photography when it was
    discontinued, and the last I shot was in 620...

    --
    I may be a scwewy wabbit, but I'm not going to Alcatwaz!
    -- E. J. Fudd, 1954

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    Donald Qualls, Aug 29, 2004
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  3. mp

    mp Guest

    In all seriousness, if you don't want it, I'd be happy to put it through
    I'll probably keep some and sell the rest. Unfortunately I don't have a
    darkroom in my new place which makes processing more difficult. Good luck
    with your move!
     
    mp, Aug 29, 2004
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  4. I am curious what kind of inconsistencies you are getting.
    I used V-Pan until I ran out. Usual development was in D-76 diluted
    1:1 but it works well in other developers as well. Rodinal is a very
    convenient developer but is noticably grainier than most others, I
    think you would have better results with D-76. I don't remember my
    times and am where I can't look it up but think it was on the order of
    8 to 10 minutes at 68F and agitation for 5 seconds every 30 seconds
    (Nikor tank).

    Richard Knoppow
    Los Angeles, CA, USA
     
    Richard Knoppow, Aug 29, 2004
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  5. mp

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    In my experience regardless of scanning or producing prints
    PMK does yield better highlight seperation than alot of other developers
    using a "N" development versus using N-, N-1 etc for the other
    developers that exist. I suppose its possible
    the film could be causing the problems do to age, however I would
    look at your metaborate solution,....usually its good for a month
    or less (again in my experience).
     
    _?_//- 2222, Aug 29, 2004
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  6. If you can spare $40 to $50, you can buy a large changing bag (that's
    new price, you might stumble onto a used one for half that, as I did).
    I haven't got a darkroom either (hoping to rectify that with this or the
    next move and some sweat), but I've been developing my own film since
    last December using a set of stainless tanks and reels (8, 16, and 32 oz
    tanks, 4x35 mm and 2x120 reels) I got for $30 on eBay, loading in my $25
    changing bag and scanning the negatives on my $130 (shipped) 2400 ppi
    glassless scanner.

    You can probably improvise a darkroom good enough for printing
    (enlarging papers run from about ISO 2 to 6, so it doesn't have to be as
    dark as you'd need for changing film if you're careful not to leave
    paper out longer than necessary) in a bathroom or laundry room, even a
    closet if you use drums to process the prints -- a pain, but if you
    already have the equipment it might be more accessible than buying a
    good scanner for the negatives. Alternately, there are still rental
    darkrooms in a lot of locations where you can do your printing after
    processing the negatives in your changing bag and daylight tank and
    kitchen or bathroom sink.

    --
    I may be a scwewy wabbit, but I'm not going to Alcatwaz!
    -- E. J. Fudd, 1954

    Donald Qualls, aka The Silent Observer
    Lathe Building Pages http://silent1.home.netcom.com/HomebuiltLathe.htm
    Speedway 7x12 Lathe Pages http://silent1.home.netcom.com/my7x12.htm

    Opinions expressed are my own -- take them for what they're worth
    and don't expect them to be perfect.
     
    Donald Qualls, Aug 29, 2004
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  7. mp

    mp Guest

    I am curious what kind of inconsistencies you are getting.

    Mostly I find occasional variations in overall density. With other films and
    developers the results are consistent and predictable, with VP/PMK it seems
    to wander more than I like. Some rolls are on the thin side, others are
    overdeveloped.
     
    mp, Aug 29, 2004
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  8. mp

    mp Guest

    In my experience regardless of scanning or producing prints
    The film is stored in a freezer and the expiry is dated 01/2004, so the age
    is the film is unlikely to be the problem.

    Thanks for the tip on the metaborate. I wasn't aware of the one month
    lifespan and mine must be five or six months old.
     
    mp, Aug 29, 2004
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  9. mp

    mp Guest

    If you can spare $40 to $50, you can buy a large changing bag (that's
    Equipment isn't the problem. I'm just spoiled by the convenience of having
    had a well equipped darkroom in a previous house.
     
    mp, Aug 29, 2004
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  10. Well.

    There, I can't help you.

    --
    I may be a scwewy wabbit, but I'm not going to Alcatwaz!
    -- E. J. Fudd, 1954

    Donald Qualls, aka The Silent Observer
    Lathe Building Pages http://silent1.home.netcom.com/HomebuiltLathe.htm
    Speedway 7x12 Lathe Pages http://silent1.home.netcom.com/my7x12.htm

    Opinions expressed are my own -- take them for what they're worth
    and don't expect them to be perfect.
     
    Donald Qualls, Aug 29, 2004
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