VHS Tape Capture Advice Please?

Discussion in 'Video Cameras' started by Spidey, Jul 4, 2003.

  1. Spidey

    Spidey Guest

    Hi,

    I'd like to start a business in my local town offering a VHS ---> DVD
    conversion service. I've got a DVD writer but find the area of Video Capture
    Cards and Editing Software to be very confusing.

    Can anyone recommend the right kit to use that would be suitable for
    commercial quality rather than just home use? WinTV seem to do some cheap
    home products but this kit must be too cheap to use as the basis for a
    professional business.

    Recommendations for Hardware and Software anyone?

    Cheers

    M.
     
    Spidey, Jul 4, 2003
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    Tony Morgan Guest

    You fail to mention whether your DVD writer is DVD-R or DVD+R.

    I suspect that you aren't aware that only a proportion of domestic DVD
    players can replay DVD-R/DVD+R.

    Have you actually tried burning *any* DVDs? I suspect that if you had
    you'd have realised that the time taken for each burn effectively
    precludes doing this on an economic basis.

    Sorry to be a wet blanket :)
     
    Tony Morgan, Jul 4, 2003
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  3. Spidey

    Spidey Guest

    Tony,

    I have a 2x Writer that does DVD-R and a 4X Writer that does DVD-R + DVD+R.
    I have burnt lots of disks and don't really think it is a problem. I have
    serveral computer so tying a couple up is not a problem. At 4X, a full movie
    only takes 12 minutes so not that time consuming.

    M.
     
    Spidey, Jul 4, 2003
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  4. Spidey

    Spidey Guest

    Malcolm,

    I agree with you aguements, but there are others offering this service, so
    that must mean that others are making it worthwhile doing??

    M.
     
    Spidey, Jul 4, 2003
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  5. Well when you find out how they do it (except as a hobby) then please
    let me know. :)

    Right now I'm doing the same sort of thing except that it's mpeg 1 on to
    CD and despite having a huge amount of professional grade kit I find I
    cannot get much more than an hour of source tape to output file in a
    long day - that does include an amount of rudimentary editing but no
    artwork whatever.

    Malcolm
     
    Malcolm Knight, Jul 4, 2003
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    Jerry. Guest

    I really can see the point in all this, with DVD recorders on the high
    street and the price failing people will just burn their own before long, we
    are at the point with DVD technology now that we were in the late 70's with
    VHS - the format wars will be over very soon, the price will drop even
    further and every house that needs one will have one....
     
    Jerry., Jul 4, 2003
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  7. We are far too sceptical a bunch here Tony, he's buzzed off to
    rec.video.professional now to see what they have to say.
     
    Malcolm Knight, Jul 4, 2003
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  8. Spidey

    Jerry. Guest

    Oops ! Below should have read "I really can't see the point in all
    this....."
     
    Jerry., Jul 4, 2003
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  9. Spidey

    Spidey Guest

    Malcolm,

    I was only answering the point about the time to 'burn' a disc, not saying
    anything about all the other factors.

    M.
     
    Spidey, Jul 4, 2003
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    Spidey Guest

    Tony,

    I as original said, I WANT to do this, I AM NOT actually doing it which is
    why I wanted some advice. I was merely saying how long it took to 'burn' a
    movie. I was not saying anything about the time taken to author the DVD from
    the source or the time to capture the analogue in the first place.

    M.
     
    Spidey, Jul 4, 2003
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  11. OK, perhaps we are a bunch of killjoys but IMO the time to have started
    in what you propose was three years ago, then you'd have had a locally
    unique service. Now with the new A06 drive costing only £175 (Novatech
    'spammed' me earlier today) every Tom Dick and Harry will be doing it if
    they want to. Few will want to pay for your time when £175 will only buy
    five or six hours of it - unless you plan on starving. ;-)
     
    Malcolm Knight, Jul 4, 2003
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  12. My kit is in many respects out of date, it includes a lot of dedicated
    hardware, you wouldn't want to buy it today. Recently I've played with
    software only solutions but it was slower than my ancient stuff, not by
    a huge amount but enough to worry me and make me hope the old kit keeps
    going a bit longer.

    You need to get something totally reliable, nothing worse than losing
    hours of work due to computer problems. Others here will tell you what
    might be reliable at reasonable cost.

    All my file creation/transcoding etc is done with Discreet's Cleaner 5
    (sometimes Cleaner XL) which integrates with my edit suite. Long
    regarded as the industry standard for such jobs but challenged these
    days by Procoder from Canopus from what I hear. Pinnacle have something
    similar too.

    There really isn't a lot of point in listing my kit, it's five years
    old, cost well into five figures and has served me well, earned its keep
    several times over. It's now coming to the end of its life and I would
    expect that within the next 18 months software only solutions, in
    conjunction with some sort of DV bridge, will overtake it. Currently I
    don't know what I'd choose, if it had to be right now it might be
    Edition 5 Pro running on the fastest computer money can buy. It seems to
    be stable enough but currently isn't as fast as my 4 full size dedicated
    PCI boards and an external box the size of a small suitcase.

    I see rendering is complete on the other machine so I must go. :)
     
    Malcolm Knight, Jul 4, 2003
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    Tony Morgan Guest

    ROFL. I'm tempted to subscribe there to see what response he gets :)
     
    Tony Morgan, Jul 4, 2003
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    Tim Puffett Guest


    If you simply want to go from VHS to DVD, have no need to add menus etc
    then why not simply get something like a Panasonic HS-2, connect it to
    your VHS source via scart, press play on the VHs and record on the HS-2.

    I had a load of old VHS that I wanted to save on DVD and started on the
    video capture route - gave up, total waste of time for what I needed.
    Next purchase (from Argos, remember their 16 day return philosophy) was
    a Philips 880 (DVD+R), quite liked the format, nice menu system.
    Philips kit was most unimpressive. Changed to the HDD recorder (HS-2)
    and haven't looked back, excellent piece of kit.
     
    Tim Puffett, Jul 5, 2003
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    Jerry. Guest

    A developing flame war by the looks of things......
     
    Jerry., Jul 7, 2003
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