Video Editor recommendation?

Discussion in 'Amateur Video Production' started by ipforyouandme, Oct 5, 2005.

  1. I've done a lot of pro editing (Avid, Pro tools, etc) but I'm looking
    for something that will allow me to quickly and efficiently combine
    video and create montages of various video scenes. The formats vary
    anywhere from a proprietary digital camera video codec to mpeg-1/2/4/dv
    and various bastardizations of mpeg-4 codecs like xvid, etc. So i'm
    looking for some directshow support is probabaly what i'm asking.
    Premiere is a little over the top but I will go back to it if I get
    frustrated enough with looking for new software. The rendering is so
    slow, though, even with my p4 2.8 with 4gb ram (and no pagefile) (I
    don't have a hardware baser renderer, I have an old Canopus DVraptor
    (not RT version) which I don't even use much anymore). I was hoping
    there was a final cut or something like that for PC but I guess not...

    I've looked at Avid Xpress HD but it doesn't support a lot of file
    formats and just looks like another premiere basically...The Ulead
    stuff has never impressed me..Unsure about Pinnacle. ..I don't want an
    app that is basically crippling because its so amateurish and not
    interested in an app with "wizards". It could all come back to
    premiere for me but I just wanted to see if anything has changed in
    ...like...bascially 10 years for semi-pro editing..

    Thanks a lot!
     
    ipforyouandme, Oct 5, 2005
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    RS Guest

    If Premiere will support the range of file formats you want, but you
    don't like the rendering, just use a frameserver and output to something
    like Cinema Craft which is quite speedy.
     
    RS, Oct 5, 2005
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    David Chien Guest

    1) Try vegas video demo and see if that'll do what you need.

    2) otherwise, drop everything into VirtualDub/etc. and output to
    standard DV AVIs for editing in what you have now.
     
    David Chien, Oct 5, 2005
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    fotoobscura Guest

    Premiere (7.0) chokes on compressed avi's. I have gigs of small clips
    in various formats. So i'm going to have to potentially convert
    everything to (large, uncompressed) DV avi's just so I can edit them?
    That would be irritating. Not everyone edits straight off their dv
    deck or camera..but I guess thats the assumption :) Its not like I
    have a 10TB raid array to store uncompressed video :) I understand the
    tradeoff in speed due to the need to decompress but thats fine with me
    as long as its not ridiculous. When trying to import a regular mpeg-4
    (divx) into premiere 7.0 pro it just hung there until I cancelled
    it...I waited 20+M.


    RS great idea I forgot I could frameserve with cce. Will do.

    David- thanks. Will try Vegas.

    Thanks again!
     
    fotoobscura, Oct 6, 2005
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    Gary Bettan Guest

    Check out Vegas 6. Since the beginning one of the strengths of Vegas
    has been it's ability to handle just about every CODEC & Video format.
    Basically, if you can play it on your computer, you can edit it with
    Vegas. Not sure about all the 'bastard' MPEG-4 formats, but the latest
    update 6.0c adds support for MPEG 4/AVC/H.264 file formats.

    you can download a free trial of Vegas 6 here
    http://www.sonymediasoftware.com/download/step2.asp?did=585

    You will aslo find excellent user group/ communities for Vegas

    DMN
    http://www.dmnforums.com/cgi-bin/displaywwugindex.fcgi?forum=sonic-foundry_vegas

    Creative Cow
    http://forums.creativecow.net/cgi-bin/new_view_posts.cgi?forumid=24

    DVinfo.net
    http://www.dvinfo.net/conf/forumdisplay.php?f=54

    The folks over at VASST have a ton of free turorials
    http://www.vasst.com/

    Ed Troxel has a great vegas newsletter (which we are proud to host for
    him) http://thetroxels.com/vegas/forum/

    Gary
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    Gary Bettan, Oct 11, 2005
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    fotoobscura Guest

    Thanks Gary. Will check out Vegas 6. Right now i'm gathering video
    and audio but have re-remembered Premiere and am already starting to
    get comfortable with it again so not sure what i'll do.
     
    fotoobscura, Oct 12, 2005
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    RS Guest

    Plus Vegas has some very good audio tweaking/editing abilities.
     
    RS, Oct 12, 2005
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    fotoobscura Guest

    Vegas crashed on me repeatedly and was installing weird databases and
    all sorts of junk that I don't like bundled with video editing
    software. It was installing so much junk that my antispyware was
    popping up repeatedly. I'm not going that route, unfortunately. Oh,
    and it would freeze-up when trying to import compressed avi's.


    Thanks though, i'll just stick with the tried-and-true Premiere :)
     
    fotoobscura, Oct 18, 2005
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