Video screen capture of embedded Windows Media Player video

Discussion in 'Amateur Video Production' started by Froggy_Jo, Sep 8, 2003.

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    Froggy_Jo Guest

    I would like to save a copy of some video available through
    www.runlondon.com. I have tried using various demo versions and
    shareware of video screen capture software but to no avail (eg SnagIt
    & HyperSnap). They all record everything on the screen apart from the
    embedded video, which is just recorded as a black rectangle. I don't
    know how long this video will be available, so I want to copy it
    quickly. Can anyone help, please?
     
    Froggy_Jo, Sep 8, 2003
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    Will Dormann Guest


    That's because the video is being displayed via DirectDraw.
    Depending on what the video format is, there are utilities for saving
    streams to your PC.


    -WD
     
    Will Dormann, Sep 8, 2003
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    Ashley Guy Guest

    Ashley Guy, Sep 9, 2003
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    Martin Guest

    Are you trying to save a video as it's streamed to your pc?
    The software you want will depend on the format of the streamed video..

    If the streamed video is in a Windows Media Format then try the HiNet
    Recorder - freeware from http://www.hoonnet.com/english1/recorder_use.htm

    For Real Media stream capture try StreamboxVCR - search Google for download
    links.

    And a search on Google also gives various links to guides to use stream
    capture software.
    But you may find the streamed video is protected to stop people doing
    exactly as you wish to do.

    Martin.
     
    Martin, Sep 9, 2003
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    Martin Guest

    Are you trying to save a video as it's streamed to your pc?
    The software you want will depend on the format of the streamed video..

    If the streamed video is in a Windows Media Format then try the HiNet
    Recorder - freeware from http://www.hoonnet.com/english1/recorder_use.htm

    For Real Media stream capture try StreamboxVCR - search Google for download
    links.

    And a search on Google also gives various links to guides to use stream
    capture software.
    But you may find the streamed video is protected to stop people doing
    exactly as you wish to do.

    Martin.
     
    Martin, Sep 9, 2003
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    Froggy_Jo Guest

    Will
    Thanks for this. Can you tell me how I find out what the video format
    is? Thanks very much.
     
    Froggy_Jo, Sep 9, 2003
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    Will Dormann Guest


    It should be pretty clear by watching the video. Windows Media Player
    or RealPlayer should both have a pretty obvious "splash screen"
    displaying their logo. If not, just right click on it and hit
    properties or something...


    -WD
     
    Will Dormann, Sep 9, 2003
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    Socrates Guest

    Is there a programme which can automatically capture screen shots of a movie
    (say one screen shot per second) as opposed to capturing the video?

    The reason for this is that I am trying to find a way to save dvd recordings
    to disc for cctv purposes. Hard drives are not large enough to be able to
    capture continuous dvd recordings, so the next best thing would be to simply
    capture screen shots of an event while it is being displayed on the PC
    monitor from the digital camera (the tape in the camera can be taken out to
    simply allow an event/scene to be displayed on the monitor.

    If we can solve the problem of capturing dvd quality images to a hard drive,
    then this would revolutionise cctv, which at the present time is generally
    of very poor quality.

    Yours faithfully,


    JOHN AIDINIANTZ
    www.londoncctv.com

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    Socrates, Sep 10, 2003
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    Samuel Paik Guest

    You are only about 5 years too late. There have been multi-channel
    MJPEG capture boards with suitable software on the market for years.
     
    Samuel Paik, Sep 11, 2003
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    Socrates Guest

    You are only about 5 years too late. There have been multi-channel
    MJPEG capture boards with suitable software on the market for years.

    Until the hard drive capacities increase substantially then even with
    compression it would not be possible to store a meaningfiul amount of data
    for cctv purposes which ideally should be able to store recordings/images
    for at least 2-4 weeks of continuous surveillance.
    --

    Yours faithfully,


    JOHN AIDINIANTZ
    www.londoncctv.com

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    Socrates, Sep 11, 2003
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    Samuel Paik Guest

    Huh? Using your original spec of 1 frame/sec, assuming very good
    quality compressed video is about 250KB/frame, a day of video would
    take about 22 GB. 2 weeks worth of video would be about 300 GB.
    Today, 300 GB is a large single drive, you could easily stuff 8
    of these into a standard 4U rack case.

    Existing software include motion detection (only save frames when
    there is some change), and probably would use more compression.
     
    Samuel Paik, Sep 12, 2003
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    Mike Kujbida Guest


    In numerous past posts, you've claimed that hardware/software solutions for
    specific applications do not exist. As someone who has spent the last 10
    years involved in this industry, I can tell you that they do exist. For
    example, 500 (or more) camera systems that record everything (at much more
    than 1 fps - and at excellent picture quality) direct to hard drives - and
    keep that information for as long as you want (limited only by the size of
    your storage).

    Your statement "If we can solve the problem of capturing dvd quality images
    to a hard drive, then this would revolutionise cctv, which at the present
    time is generally of very poor quality" is an example of you not
    understanding what CCTV systems are capable of.

    The only reason the quality is poor is because the average business owner
    doesn't have a clue as to what it takes to get a good quality image and,
    when they find out the cost, cry "I can't afford that". Tell that to your
    insurance agent after your high-end store jewellery loses a million dollars
    of product because of a robbery. The "great" video system turns out to be
    useless because no one ever bothered with even the most basic maintenance
    necessary to keep the system operating properly.

    Instead of spreading useless information, you really do need to learn
    something about the CCTV industry you claim to be an expert on.

    Mike
     
    Mike Kujbida, Sep 12, 2003
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    Socrates Guest

    something about the CCTV industry you claim to be an expert on.

    I am not claiming to be an expert - the point of my posting is that there is
    currently know way of storing uncompressed continuous dvd quality film to
    hard drives for cctv purposes - whatever system you are using.

    The only workaround seems to be to capture individual shots from a dvd
    camera - photo or snapshot mode -taken at say 1 second intervals - so that
    these images could be saved on hard drives becuase they take up a lot less
    space.

    If you know of a camera that can be used for this purpose- please say so.

    Yours faithfully,


    JOHN AIDINIANTZ
    www.londoncctv.com
     
    Socrates, Sep 13, 2003
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