Videoguys Top 10 of 2003

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    Videoguy Guest

    We've got our Top Ten products of 2003 now posted.

    2003 was a landmark year for digital video editing. It will go down as
    the turning point that marks the changeover from hardware to software
    based NLE solutions. These new NLEs leverage the power and performance
    of your computer, as well as additional hardware. This is no small
    wave of change. It is actually a tidal wave that is as important as
    the DV Tsunami that revolutionized video editing in the beginning of
    the decade. There have never before been so many new NLEs to choose
    from and so many cool ways to save big bucks to get them

    http://www.videoguys.com/2003best.htm

    At the end of the article I talk about some emerging technologies in
    video.

    Gary

    Note: I'm a PC guy. I use and edit on a PC and we primarily sell PC
    products. I
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    Videoguy, Jan 10, 2004
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    Fishface Guest

    Are you saying you have the Canopus ADVC300 in stock?
    Doesn't the Canopus TwinPact100 do all the ADVD300 does-
    and more? And at the same price?
     
    Fishface, Jan 10, 2004
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    Come off it, Gary.
    I bought the Avid Pro upgrade, and it's sitting on my shelf because of the
    many bugs.
    It's an interest free $295 loan to Avid.
    The product as released was unusable.
    4.01 is somewhat usable.
    4.10 may be a step backwards.
    The Avid discussion group has a post from a member who found his Mojo so
    unusable he simply returned it.
    Myriad complaints have emerged.
    Avid Pro DOES NOT capture properly.
    Avid Pro DOES NOT export properly.
    Corruption of database has also been reported.

    Gary, you're a pretty respectable guy, but I'm not letting you get away with
    this one.

    DO NOT BUY AVID PRO 4.10!!! It's JUNK!!!

    Later releases may fix the bugs and result in a worthwhile product, but
    there's no reason why anyone should give their money to Avid and receive
    nothing but frustration in the meantime.




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    Robert Morein, Jan 11, 2004
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  4. Should he not have consulted with a Urologist first?
     
    Steve Friedman, Jan 11, 2004
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  5. The Videoguy doesn't seem to answer his own threads. Let's see if this
    one is different.

    Gary Eickmeier
     
    Gary Eickmeier, Jan 11, 2004
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  6. :):):)
     
    Robert Morein, Jan 11, 2004
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  7. Videoguy

    Videoguy Guest

    We got in our first shipment of ADVC300. I think it may have sold out
    (especailly witht he Top 10 award heating up sales). We do have more
    rolling to us.

    The TwinPack is not the same thing. It has some of the same features,
    it is designed essentially for taking your VGA screen and converting
    it inot a DV video. Very cool for guys who do training videos. Here is
    a link to the Canopus web page that has a comparison chart for the
    ADVC prodcits
    http://www.canopus.us/US/products/ADVC_selection_guide/pm_advc_selection.asp

    Gary
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    Videoguy, Jan 11, 2004
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    Videoguy Guest

    The Avid discussion group has a post from a member who found his Mojo so
    I'm aware of the issues some users are posting on the message board,
    but that is not everyone. We've got many, many very happy and
    satisfied users of Pro & Mojo. So does the Avid message board if you
    take the time to read all the threads.

    I wish every product we sold was perfect out of the box - for every
    user. Unfortunatley this isn;t always the case. One of the things that
    exaserbates this problem for Avid is their lame initial responce to
    any problems if the product is not installed on one of their
    'certified' computers. I wish their tech support and engineering would
    wake up and realize that this is just a bunch of bull crap. Their
    software should and MUST run properly on any machine that meets the
    recommended performance specs. (Ie procesor speed, ram etc). Sure they
    can specify specific graphics cards or other compoents for best
    results, but you can't just dismiss a tech issue because the guy
    didn't use one of the handful of systems Avid recommends.

    Avid takes stability and realiability quite seriously. Probably more
    so then any othe rcompany in the industry - including Canopus. Xpress
    Pro is working great for many users and Avid will make it stable for
    all users.

    Gary
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    Videoguy, Jan 11, 2004
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    Videoguy Guest

    The Videoguy doesn't seem to answer his own threads. Let's see if this
    I try to answer all threads and monitor this group as best I can. Is
    there a specific thread or post you are referring too?

    Gary
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    Videoguy, Jan 11, 2004
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  10. I sure do read all the threads. It's a crapshoot whether it will work for
    you or not. So what if it makes 50% of the buyers happy? So what if they're
    using the subset of features that actually do work? So what if said buyers
    have never tried to capture anything over an hour? So what if they haven't
    run into the export problems? So what if they haven't had database
    corruption yet? Should a buyer have to take that chance? NO NO NO!!!!
    This product isn't halfway functional. This isn't splitting hairs.

    Unfortunatley this isn;t always the case. One of the things that
    Doesn't matter whether the system is recommended or not. The Avid discussion
    board reveals no relationship with the current problems.
    No they don't. They are liars.

    Probably more
    Alright, so it's working for half -- except for the universal capture and
    export problems. Bullshit!

    and Avid will make it stable for
    I'm sure they'll make it work -- eventually. Right now, it's CRAP!!!
    The problems afflict their "recommended systems" as much as others.
    "Recommended" is not an issue here.

    This is the ONLY Video editor in the INDUSTRY that is not compatible with
    Microsoft Critical Updates. Potential buyers should know that Update 824141
    CANNOT be installed, leaving their computer vulnerable to web attack.

    As it is, it's unconscionable that they
    1. have my $295 as an interest-free loan
    2. have released a product with SERIOUS problems.
    3. Provide no one to talk to, except for "installation support."
    4. Have decided to make the updated dongle nonfunctional with Avid Express
    3.54, forcing me to dive into a cold, deep pool.

    There is only one class of user who should even consider this product: one
    who must interface with the Avid big-iron systems. Any other user who is not
    in this category should absolutely not consider this product.


    Avid, I wish you much pain, distress, financial loss, and loss of
    reputation.

    I DARE Avid to call me: (215) 646-4894.
     
    Robert Morein, Jan 12, 2004
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    Videoguy Guest

    No argumant here. But i find both Microsoft and Avid guilty on this
    one. Microsoft for building such vulnerable software to begin with and
    Avid for having so much difficulty with the patch.
    As I said, I'm not thrilled with the way Avid support is handling this
    at all. And your points about recommended systems having the problem
    is also valid. My point was that rather then immediately address the
    issue - Avid first blamed users hardware.
    Dongles suck. I hate them. Even with dongles you can find cracks of
    Avid software if you look hard enough. Since version 2.0 we have run
    into issues with every upgrade that are simply Dongle related. There
    is no technical reason for this roll back issue form the softwares
    code. It all has to do with the stupid dongle implementation.
    I can tell you are very frustrated with Avid. I can't say I blame you.
    But not all users are experiencing the problems you've commented on.
    Avid will fix Xpress Pro. And they will do it faster then you think,
    but probably not fast enough to make you happy.

    Gary
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    Videoguy, Jan 12, 2004
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  12. Gary,
    If you talk to them, tell them this: if they fix my dongle so it can run
    both 3.5.4 and Express Pro, I will wait patiently.
    Otherwise, I will advertise their "screw you and get lost" attitude.
    Bob Morein
    (215) 646-4894
     
    Robert Morein, Jan 12, 2004
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  13. Just a quick correction:

    82141 relates to a local login elevation of privelage. It does not
    make a machine vulnerable to remote attacks.

    From MS's website:

    "An attacker must have valid logon credentials to exploit the
    vulnerability. The vulnerability could not be exploited remotely."

    That said, Avid needs to fix this bug soon. SP2 is going to be
    released shortly, and it will doubtlessly break Avid installs yet
    again.

    Of course it's also worth mentioning that Xpress Pro doesn't work
    under Mac OS 10.3 either.

    N.
     
    Just a Guy You Know, Jan 12, 2004
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  14. I just downloaded a de-dongling crack for 3.5.4. I'm a legit
    3.5/Xpress Pro user, so I have no problem downloading a hacked version
    to restore functionality that was lost.

    (I don't even know why Avid bothers - the Xpress Pro crack was out on
    the net before the courier even showed up with my upgrade package.
    Dongles may have slowed down copying in the "pre-internet" days before
    hacks were readily available, but there's no point now with big
    filesharing networks).
     
    Just a Guy You Know, Jan 12, 2004
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  15. Thanks for the correction.
    And as far as the crack, you certainly were driven to it.
     
    Robert Morein, Jan 12, 2004
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  16. Leaving an editing-system connected to the internet is not really the
    smart thing to do, don't you agree. So that's a moot point.

    -martin-
     
    Martin Heffels, Jan 29, 2004
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  17. Not to mention that Update 824141 has nothing to do with Web based attacks.
     
    Daniella Sorova, Jan 30, 2004
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  18. What does being connect tot he internet have to do with windows updates.
    If you loaded it off a CD would it be any more compatible?
     
    Chris Phillipo, Jan 30, 2004
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    FLY135 Guest

    All my computers are connected to the internet. Why is this an issue? A
    router with firewall is sufficient to keep outside intruders at bay. Of
    course nothing can protect your computer from the user opening and running
    email attachments. Nowadays it big news that a "new" virus is being sent
    out. The only thing new about it is the text message telling you to open it
    is different.
     
    FLY135, Jan 30, 2004
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  20. The latter is indeed the biggest problem. Anti-virus companies are
    always one step behind. The simple solution is of course to restrict
    the use of the browser to the system-administrator. My editing-system
    is not connected to the net, except when I do updates of drivers etc,
    then I hook it up. Better safe than sorry, that's my motto.

    cheers

    -martin-
     
    Martin Heffels, Jan 30, 2004
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