Viewing - Editing in Windows 7 Home Premium

Discussion in '35mm Cameras' started by Don McC, Feb 26, 2011.

  1. Don McC

    Don McC Guest

    I'm new to Windows 7. What are the differences between Windows Photo
    Viewer and Windows Live Photo Gallery? I see that the latter program can
    handle light-duty editing.

    Also, what is the best way to get prints? Take the camera or memory card in?
    Burn the photo files to a CD / DVD and take that in? Or e-mail the photo files
    to the printing lab?

    Thanks for any advice that you can give to this noobie to digital photography.
     
    Don McC, Feb 26, 2011
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    PeterN Guest

    I send most of mine to Costco. I make sure to incorporate their printer
    profile, (available at no cost. ) I upload them to their site and about
    two hours later I pick them up. The quality is decent and the price is
    slightly less then my cost for doing it myself, especially if you
    consider the redoes. They also has a mail order service, but I've never
    used it.

    I doubt if their prints are archival quality. If I wanted archival or
    fine art printing, I would probably do it myself, or use a different lab.
     
    PeterN, Feb 27, 2011
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    Bill Graham Guest

    There is another alternative. High quality color printers are very cheap
    today. (probably all made by children in China) So, you can buy one and do
    your own printing, if you have more than one or two photos to print.
     
    Bill Graham, Feb 27, 2011
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  4. Don McC

    tony cooper Guest

    It doesn't make any difference at all. Any of those ways transports
    your image file to the processor. There's no difference in the file
    because of the transporting method.
     
    tony cooper, Feb 27, 2011
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  5. Don McC

    Mike Guest

    The only time I use my home printer for photos is if I'm in a hurry or
    need an odd size print. I upload mine to Snapfish who do a range of
    good value for money prints and they are excellent quality.

    I get 50 free 6x4 prints via my ISP & even larger prints are still way
    cheaper than home printing. Delivery is a few days.


    Mike
     
    Mike, Feb 27, 2011
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  6. Don McC

    Bruce Guest


    I find it deeply ironic that some people buy digital cameras whose
    prime advantage over film is the immediacy of results, then order
    their prints by mail order. ;-)
     
    Bruce, Feb 27, 2011
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  7. Don McC

    Schneider Guest

    Unlike film, they get to choose beforehand which of their photos they want
    printed. Instead of wasting money on getting back prints for all the shots
    that were tossers as well. Why is that ironic? I find it ironic that
    someone who professes to know about all facets of photography would be so
    blind to so many things about the subject.
     
    Schneider, Feb 27, 2011
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  8. Don McC

    OG Guest


    Back in the day when prints were the only way to view the images,
    immediacy was a problem; nowadays of course, we can view the digital
    images on digital frames or computer screens. Prints are no longer
    needed for the process to be complete.
     
    OG, Feb 27, 2011
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  9. Don McC

    Mike Guest


    Not really - I get to see the pics immediately and retake if needed. I
    can still edit the pics as soon as I get to my PC and as with most
    people very few get printed, most are only ever used digitally. Many of
    my favourites get used for desktops on my PC, laptop and phone where I
    see them more than I ever would if printed.

    I most often print when in a hurry such as when an aunt came to visit,
    we took a pic of her with the kids which she really liked. I printed
    it, popped out for a frame and 20 mins later she had a framed pic to
    take home.



    Mike
     
    Mike, Feb 27, 2011
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  10. Don McC

    Bruce Guest


    So "the process is complete" when you view your
    wonderful >12 MP images on a <2 MP LCD monitor?

    Therefore, any camera with more than 2 MP is overkill ...
     
    Bruce, Feb 27, 2011
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  11. Don McC

    Mike Guest

    That's not what OG said, "Prints are no longer needed for the process to
    be complete", just means you don't have to print out every picture you
    take. I don't do you??

    Mike
     
    Mike, Feb 27, 2011
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  12. Don McC

    Bruce Guest


    I accept that if you are shooting to view your images on a 2 MP
    monitor, the process is complete when you view your images on a 2 MP
    monitor, and your 12 MP camera is gross overkill.

    If you are shooting for prints, the process is complete when you view
    your prints.

    For other people, the process is complete when they view the image on
    the LCD screen on the camera, or on the screen of their cell phone. Or
    at low resolution on their Facebook page, or whatever.


    Why should what I do be of any interest to you?

    I was merely remarking on the irony of people adopting an imaging
    technology (digital) whose primary virtue is its ability to produce
    near-instant results, then ordering prints that arrive in the mail.

    In the early days of digital, its proponents touted its major virtue
    over film as not having to wait for prints to arrive in the mail ...

    Perhaps you don't find that ironic. ;-)
     
    Bruce, Feb 27, 2011
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    OG Guest

    Therefore any print smaller than A3 is just wasting data?

    Anyway, I generally judge quality in terms other than how many pixels ;-)
     
    OG, Feb 27, 2011
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    tony cooper Guest

    Prints are usually ordered to share an image with other people or for
    long-term display. The immediacy has been satisfied by viewing the
    images on the screen.
     
    tony cooper, Feb 27, 2011
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  15. Don McC

    Bruce Guest


    The vast majority of digital images are a complete waste of time,
    effort and money, for a whole range of reasons.


    Judge whatever you want by whatever standards you want.

    It's a free world. ;-)
     
    Bruce, Feb 27, 2011
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    tony cooper Guest

    The vast majority of digital images are snapshots of family and
    vacation sights. No matter how poorly they are executed, they are
    valuable reminders for the people taking them.

    I have files of such photos, and - if faced with the decision - I'd
    save these and sacrifice all of my hobby shots even though the hobby
    shots are better photographs.
     
    tony cooper, Feb 27, 2011
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    Mike Guest

    I'm sure for many people using P+S cameras who never cop or use their
    pics other than for facebook 12mp is a waste.
    Basically what OG said. Not everyone needs or wants to hold a picture
    to appreciate it.
    Your response implied the purpose of photography was to print all your
    pics, TBH I don't really care what you do with your pics.
    Only a little, though it still makes perfect sense to order from a lab.
    I went digital in 1999 for many reasons, instant prints was on the list
    though not near the top and with the advent of online and high street
    printing services it has become even less important.

    It's definitely a lot cheaper and the quality is as good if not better
    than my home photo printer. I've just uploaded my latest order, one of
    the pics is over 2 yrs old and I don't think it's ever been printed but
    I rediscovered it a couple of weeks ago. Not exactly instant.

    Mike
     
    Mike, Feb 27, 2011
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  18. Don McC

    Mike Guest

    As where film images, how many people took a couple of rolls on holiday,
    paid for the printing, looked at them once or twice and then put them away.

    If anything digital has reduced the waste because the crap un usable
    shots get deleted and a few memorable shots make it to print/facebook.
    Digital P+S cameras are far cheaper than their film equivalents where
    and all things being equal will produce better results as well.
     
    Mike, Feb 27, 2011
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    PeterN Guest

    But blustering Brucie A/K/A Tony sells cameras.

    Would you buy a camera from him?
     
    PeterN, Feb 27, 2011
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    Bill Graham Guest

    Well, a lot of us almost never get our stuff printed on paper. We just view
    them on computer screens, or TV's, or these wall mountable "electronic
    picture frames".
     
    Bill Graham, Feb 28, 2011
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