What a camera SHOULD look like.. ref. Canon EOS 300V

Discussion in 'Canon' started by Ani, Jan 9, 2004.

  1. Ani

    Ani Guest

    I'm confounded about the Canon EOS 300V. It's a good camera on specs,
    and VFM :), but I JUST can't reconcile myself to the looks of it...
    too weird, and I won't be caught dead with the thing in my hands.. but
    it's a free world, and if the invisible hand says people love it, the
    monstrosity stays :)... any views?

    PS This is not to start a flame war :) Just wondering if my concept
    of what a camera *should* like is hopelessly outdated :) And I'm 28
    :)

    Best!
     
    Ani, Jan 9, 2004
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    Vedran Guest

    Well, I try to shoot with my 300V most of the time.
    And then again, some people like to watch.....
     
    Vedran, Jan 9, 2004
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    Matt White Guest

    As a poor young retail worker, I sell many of the
    Ti/300V/whatever-it's-called-in-your-neck-of-the-woods, and I love the
    feel whenever I demo it. Maybe it's because I've got long, thin fingers,
    maybe it's because I'm a computer geek and love the silver and curves, but
    it just looks and feels right to me.

    I admit, the lack of weight might turn some people off, but most of my
    customers aren't pros; they're just looking for something lightweight and
    compact, yet still better than an average P&S. You should see their faces
    when I hand it to them; they think I've given them a replica shell.
    They're even more impressed with the weight when I swap out the kit lens
    (Please, no flames! I know, I know.) for the 50/1.8. It's a nice little
    camera. It's not for pros, but it's perfectly good for it's intended
    purpose and intended user.

    Slightly off-topic, slightly related: I'm constantly amazed that my Nikon
    EM was considered cheap and fragile when it came out. The thing's build
    like a tank.
     
    Matt White, Jan 9, 2004
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    BG250 Guest

    From the top, it looks a little plain with much of the controls and the LCD
    moving to the rear. Other than that, it looks okay to me. OTOH, looks are
    secondary to me. The latest Rebel is the most feature laden entry level 35mm
    SLR available. Unless you are going to put the camera in a display case and
    look at it, I'd not be overly concerned with looks. As long as it has the
    functions you need, feels good in your hand and delivers the images you
    expect, I go for it.
    bg
     
    BG250, Jan 9, 2004
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    Tony Spadaro Guest

    I thought it was exceptionally ugly too -- until I picked one up. While the
    look is nothing I would ever find handsome, it certainly feels comfy, and I
    assume that was the goal.
     
    Tony Spadaro, Jan 9, 2004
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  6. I don't care what a camera looks like, I'm more interested in what the
    results it produces look like
     
    Tony Parkinson, Jan 9, 2004
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  7. Are you burdened with the Nikon F image? Many of us were/are, even though
    we were unaware of it. Of course, there were/are those who were caught
    earlier by the Leica rangefiner look.

    Me? A real camera is at least a 4x5 Speed Graphic, if not a Calumet grey
    tank. Real cameras have a focusing cloth draped over it, and a compendium
    shade protecting the lens. It's probably that we all have our images of
    essential camera-ness.... what a great thread that would make!

    Bill Tallman
     
    William D. Tallman, Jan 9, 2004
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  8. Can't see the original post, so I'll tack onto Tony's ;-).

    But I also agree with the sentiment. Do you want a camera to go with
    your ensemble and look cool, or do you want to actually take photos?


    - Al.
     
    Al Denelsbeck, Jan 9, 2004
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    David Guest

    "Ani"wrote


    Don't know about the Canon but I remeber getting a loan of ? Olympus long
    cylinder with fold out lens cap etc. You all know th e one i mean...)
    Handled OK, looked odd ------------ but was a complet PITB on a strap round
    my neck!!!!! Every time I moved it rolled around and started to pendulum
    until I thought I was going to KO everyone in a 6 ft radius!

    Moral of the story

    put it round your neck in teh camera shop then run like pelters down the
    road to see what it does before parting with any hard earned.....

    We'll all vouch for you when your hearing comes up.....

    BTW - Anyone know where to get a squash racket re-strung - I've just broken
    a string on mine |-(

    David
     
    David, Jan 9, 2004
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    Lewis Lang Guest

    Subject: What a camera SHOULD look like.. ref. Canon EOS 300V
    Plastic or silver chrome is an oxymoron in search of a mega moron buyer! ;-)

    PS - All DSLRs should either look like or be the *istD ;-).

    Regards,
     
    Lewis Lang, Jan 11, 2004
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    David Guest

    "Lewis Lang" wrote

    WHAT??????? are you on about??

    .....as for the "pist"..........sorry - but what's it made of? last time I
    (breifly) looked it looked like a piece of plastic tat.

    Long live manual, metal monster SLR's

    get back to your game boy.

    David
     
    David, Jan 11, 2004
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    Lewis Lang Guest

    Subject: Re: What a camera SHOULD look like.. ref. Canon EOS 300V
    What are you, like 2? The *ist film and digital bodies are completely
    different. Cameras aren't monster trucks, not everything built like a tank has
    to weigh like a tank or be as large as one. I'll take a plastic shelled *istD
    or magnesium bodied MZ-S over a metal dinosaur any year of the day after owning
    Nikkormat ELs Nikon F3/Ts, Leicaflex SL-2, etc. (all great cameras but so is
    the lighter "plastic" Aria, Maxxum 7, etc). Get back to your own game boy, and
    stop playing games...boy.
     
    Lewis Lang, Jan 12, 2004
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    David Guest

    Lewis scribbled

    Snip

    Fill in the missing word.

    Magnesium is a m___l.......

    Hope yours is a silver Game Boy Advanced.....

    ;-)

    Having had a day in the hills with my old F2 in the rucksac I think I might
    almost be inclined to agree.......

    David
     
    David, Jan 12, 2004
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    Alan Browne Guest

    ....that weighs far less than aluminum, which is Lewis' point.
    Cameras made with Mg alloys are just as tough, but weigh less that their
    aluminum or other metal ancestor used in cameras.


    Aluminum alloys: aprox 2.7 g/cm^3
    Mg Alloys: aprox 1.8 g/cm^3

    (Depends which particualr alloys of course)
     
    Alan Browne, Jan 12, 2004
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    Lewis Lang Guest

    << Subject: Re: What a camera SHOULD look like.. ref. Canon EOS 300V
    From: Alan Browne
    Date: Mon, Jan 12, 2004 2:16 PM
    Message-id: <XsBMb.64831$>
    ....that weighs far less than aluminum, which is Lewis' point.
    Cameras made with Mg alloys are just as tough, but weigh less that their
    aluminum or other metal ancestor used in cameras.


    Aluminum alloys: aprox 2.7 g/cm^3
    Mg Alloys: aprox 1.8 g/cm^3

    (Depends which particualr alloys of course)
    Thanks, Alan. At least you got my point about (toughness/)lighter weight.

    Regards,

    Lewis
     
    Lewis Lang, Jan 17, 2004
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  16. I have no argument with anyone who likes lightweight cameras, and using Al,
    Mg, and Ti alloys to get there, as well as plastics, is fine. It's just that
    I don't like lightweight cameras. The heavy weight of my F5 decreases my
    shake, and enables me to take hand held shots that I couldn't get with a
    lighter weight camera. For the same reason, I target shoot with a bull
    barreled 22 automatic...the extra weight of the barrel steadies my older
    hands.
     
    William Graham, Jan 17, 2004
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