What about the Panasonic NV-DS60B?

Discussion in 'Panasonic Lumix' started by Barry Webber, Oct 12, 2003.

  1. Barry Webber

    Barry Webber Guest

    Hi,
    My Panasonic NV-DS60B arrived recently and has already exceded my
    expectations with it's small size, compactness, build quality, functions and
    overall wow factor! :)

    Admittedly it's our first camcorder and as I am a newbie I am easily
    impressed!.....but I have researched things a bit and am very happy with my
    choices so far.

    All the function buttons seem to hand and offer easy convenient operation of
    the main features. The really neat miniDV tapes are side loading so does n't
    impede tripod use like a bottom loader.
    The inbuilt camera light seems like a really useful feature rather than just
    a gimmick and illuminates things well in a confined dark area.

    In last thursdays Guardian there was a full page Curry's advert featuring
    the NV-DS60B at £399 including £50 off!! This makes it all the more sweeter
    as I managed to get my order in at www.berridgemail.co.uk for £229 just
    before they put their price up! by £50.

    For the price I paid I can do without the DV in, analogue in, flash memory,
    etc, as I intend to write straight to vcd and eventually dvd rather than
    back to DV tape. Also my very nice Oly C2100UZ takes care of our still photo
    needs.

    For decent core video functions you can't go wrong with this little beauty!
    :)

    Well you might consider it anyway!
     
    Barry Webber, Oct 12, 2003
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    Tony Rodda Guest

    Barry,

    Agree entirely. Got one (not at your low price but still a great deal)
    recently and have been very pleased. Great package.

    Only one issue. Can't get the thing connected to my PC. My XP software
    won't 'see' the camera. Trying to connect using the "DV out" port via
    Firewire.

    All the usual retail outlets have been unable to advise (meaningfully) and
    the Panasonic site is worse than useless.

    Anyone help?

    Rgds

    Tony
     
    Tony Rodda, Oct 16, 2003
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  3. Had no problems with my NV-DS60A - the Australian version of the same
    camera. Was immediately recognised by the XP software thru the firewire.
    Have you tried your camera on another computer set up with XP and a firewire
    connection?
    If it works then the problem is not with the camera but your computer and/or
    its peripherals.

    Possibly your firewire card is faulty or not installed correctly and you may
    need to check this out - when my card was installed the setup process was
    acknowledged by XP.

    You can see whether this was installed and working by doing the following:
    Control Panel/Performance and Maintenance/System/Hardware/Device Manager.
    You should then find IEEE 1394 host controller. If that isn't there you
    need to install it. Click on the device' properties to see whether it is
    working correctly.

    Hope the above is useful to you.

    Regards

    David Bennetts
    Australia
     
    David Bennetts, Oct 17, 2003
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  4. Having just recently bought the Australian version (NV-DS60A) to replace my
    13 year old Sony Handycam, which at the time I bought it was far more
    compact than anything else around then, I'm also impressed with its design,
    compactness and features.

    .. The really neat miniDV tapes are side loading so does n't
    impede tripod use like a bottom loader. Haven't seen any of those, but the
    tapes are certainly more compact than video 8 - only drawback is the
    slightly reduced capacity (60 minutes short play in lieu 90)
    Although not a gimmick don't use it too much as it drains batteries pretty
    fast, using the LCD screen a lot instead of the viewfinder also markedly
    affects battery life.
    Hard to believe you got it that cheap, the cheapest you can buy here is
    about the former price.
    If you want quality still pictures camcorders aren't really the way to go.
    You'll get a reasonable still for emailing etc if you use Moviemaker 2
    software for editing, just click on the photo button for a jpeg image.

    Regards

    David Bennetts
    Australia
     
    David Bennetts, Oct 18, 2003
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  5. Barry Webber

    Tony Morgan Guest

    In message <_m%jb.281$>, David
    While I'd agree that camcorder stills aren't much good for anything
    larger than 6x4's (depending on your camcorder - and providing you use
    the memory chip and not the tape), I've found my TRV-30's still facility
    invaluable for video work.

    The stills are great for "story-boarding" a project [1]. They're also
    good for some clip sequences in some kinds of video [2].

    [1] By "walking" your locations and shooting lots of stills, you
    can then use them to produce a "prototype" movie to get shot
    timings and help time (and construct) your commentary. Then
    you can shoot all the clips in your - with the required
    timings.
    The last "pre-production" step is to record the commentary
    ("face" video with the talk audio). Moving the commentary into the
    timeline, then inserting cut-aways of your "topic" clips at the
    points you planned (taking out the commentary video but leaving
    the audio finishes the video. It ensures continuity, keeps pace,
    and helps timings by doing it this way. All based on your
    - timeline - with video editors that support layers
    you can even use your - movie by overlaying
    your commentary clip, and replace your stills with your
    movie shots.

    I'm currently doing this for a BBC Voices project - hopefully it
    will be published on the BBC Voices website in a couple of
    months.

    [2] Stills can be very useful as clips in your movies. For instance
    if you commentary goes like "there are many good restaurants
    in the town" you can replace the commentary video at the
    appropriate time with a series of "flash" stills of several
    restaurant shop-fronts - maybe with peel-off transitions.
     
    Tony Morgan, Oct 18, 2003
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  6. Barry Webber

    Tony Rodda Guest

    David,

    Rechecked everything. This is the first time I've used Firewire. Is it
    like USB in that you can connect 'live' at any time or do I have to boot the
    camera first before I boot the PC (or any other procedure?).

    Rgds

    TR
     
    Tony Rodda, Oct 18, 2003
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  7. Barry Webber

    Jerry. Guest

    <snip garbage>

    You really are clueless Mr Morgan ! :~(
     
    Jerry., Oct 18, 2003
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  8. Tony

    Works just like USB on my computer. I leave the firewire cable attached to
    the port, just plug in at the camera end (with computer already on) and
    there is immediate recognition of the camera asking what you want to do
    next. Camera needs to have power supplied and be turned on (select VCR
    mode), then screen headed Digital Video Device comes up on the computer. I
    then have the opportunity to "capture" the video using Moviemaker 2 - have
    you installed that program? It comes as a free download from Microsoft or
    more conveniently it comes on cover discs on many computer magazines.
    If you have it you just follow the software prompts and your camera will do
    the necessary action automatically to "capture" to your hard disc.

    Hope the above is useful.

    David Bennetts
     
    David Bennetts, Oct 19, 2003
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