What codec being used by KWorld MPEG TV card ?

Discussion in 'Amateur Video Production' started by Emil Lam, Sep 16, 2003.

  1. Emil Lam

    Emil Lam Guest

    Hi,

    I've problem to convert AVI files captured using my KWorld MPEG TV
    card (model KW-TV878-DIM with CONEXANT fusion 878A chipset) with every
    software I've tried. All of couldn't check out what codec being used
    by the capturing software that came with this card's CD. I've asked
    kworld many times of this question but they have no reply.

    :<
     
    Emil Lam, Sep 16, 2003
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    georgess Guest

    There is a freeware program called "gspot" that will tell you what
    codec is expected
     
    georgess, Sep 16, 2003
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  3. Emil Lam

    Samuel Paik Guest

    It would probably help to specify what software you are using.

    The KWorld hardware is a basic Fusion 878A based card, and actually
    produces 4:2:2 YUV raw video. It is your software which does any
    encoding.

    Sam
     
    Samuel Paik, Sep 16, 2003
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  4. Emil Lam

    Emil Lam Guest

    gspot downloaded but I don't know how to use it to convert avi file to
    other format file.

    Below is information reported as I use gspot (v2.21) to view the AVI
    file:

    File -> Stat field: File length correct (explanation is 'This is a
    valid AFI file ...')

    Video Codec box showed below info:

    4CC: I420/YV12
    Name: RAW I420
    Stat: Codec NOT Installed

    Stream Type and A/V Interleave box showed below info:

    Type: OpenDML AVI
    MRR: n.s.
    I/L: Not supported.

    Audio box showed below info:

    Stream 1 codec

    Name: PCM Audio
    Stat: PCM: No Codec Required

    As I selected 'Export' from Main menu 'Options', a window popped up
    showing me some export setup. Initially options like 'export format' &
    'File setup' are unavailable until I selected 'Enable Exporting'
    checkbox. But even then, I couldn't figure out where could I instruct
    the software to do video format conversion from AVI file to other
    format.

    I opened the file ExportFormat.txt in program directory of gspot and
    it showed below content.

    Could I use this file to instruct gspot to do the conversion for me ?
    Or gspot is not a A/V file format converting software ?

    # #######################################################################
    # This is a sample "export format" file. A file such as this can be
    # used to define the content and arrangement of exported data by
    # ticking the "Get Format from File" checkbox in the Export Setup
    # dialog. Lines beginning with a "#" symbol, such as the lines you
    # are reading, are ignored. All other text is reproduced exactly
    # as typed, except when the "%" symbol, followed by another letter, is
    # encountered; in that case the pair of letters is replaced with
    # actual data for the file being examined. Each letter designates the
    # contents of one of the data windows (the exact assignments can be
    # seen in the tooltips for the data windows, or the entire list can be
    # viewed by clicking on "Field Designations" in the Export Setup
    dialog.
    #
    # Currently, the text from any specified window always appears in its
    # entirety, even if it describes several items (#of frames, for
    example,
    # is appended to "Runtime"). This limitation may be eliminated in a
    # future version of GSpot.
    #
    # Following is a simple example:
    #
    #
    AVI File Details
    ========================================
    Name.........: %@
    Filesize.....: %B
    Runtime......: %K
    Video Codec..: %F
    Video Bitrate: %I
    Audio Codec..: %L
    Audio Bitrate: %N
    Frame Size...: %H
     
    Emil Lam, Sep 18, 2003
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    georgess Guest


    In general the trick is to try to find a codec that supports the AVI
    file you have, not to convert the AVI

    You can find many freeware codecs in the tools section on
    dvdrhelp.com. You can probably convert the AVI, if that's what you
    really want, with VirtualDub

    HTH

    --G
     
    georgess, Sep 18, 2003
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  6. Emil Lam

    Samuel Paik Guest

    It is purely an information tool. It has no conversion capabilities.
    I420 and YV12 are raw formats that don't have codecs. Unfortunately,
    some software doesn't know how to handle them. I'd suggest VirtualDub
    <http://www.virtualdub.org/>

    Sam
     
    Samuel Paik, Sep 19, 2003
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  7. Emil Lam

    Emil Lam Guest

    You mean there's no way to convert the AVI file to other format even
    if I can find the codec ?
     
    Emil Lam, Sep 19, 2003
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  8. Emil Lam

    Samuel Paik Guest

    If you have the codec, you can reencode to another form.
     
    Samuel Paik, Sep 20, 2003
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  9. Emil Lam

    Emil Lam Guest

    I followed LeeBear's "DiVX (AVI) to (S)VCD using DVD2SVCD" guide
    (http://www.dvdrhelp.com/forum/userguides/111846.php) and used
    VirtualDub & DVD2SVCD to do the conversion.

    Unfortunately, I was still unable to convert my AVI files.

    To make my problem's description simple, I uploaded my computer screen
    at http://www.geocities.com/emil_lamathk/index.html for reference.

    I followed "step 1) Preparing the AVI files". My AVI files don't have
    multiple segments.

    See avi2vcd1.gif

    I followed the steps 1)a) through 1)d)

    See avi2vcd2.gif & avi2vcd3.gif

    Step 1)e) not followed as I have no movie split need.

    Step "2) DVD2SVCD.... more then just for DVD's" but because of
    different version, the display is slightly different.

    See avi2vcd4.gif

    Step 2)b) followed but I found the 'Go' button was not highlighted.

    See avi2vcd5.gif

    Although steps following 2)c) followed and other settngs. I still
    couldn't made the 'Go' button mentioned at 2)b) avilable. So I
    couldn't start AVI conversion.

    Later, I found the 'Go' button re-appeared if I closed VirtualDub
    before starting DVD2SVCD. However, I found that even the conversion
    seemed run, the software only converted one .wav only i.e. no vidoe
    conversion took place (I found no .mp2 file in my harddisk after
    conversion).

    I would like to know the reason behind.

    Below log files were for your reference:

    <<dvd2svcd_log.txt>>

    WNASPI32.DLL 1.0.0.1
    The original video framerate of 25.004 is not supported. The framerate
    will be adjusted!
    --------------------------------------------------------
    - 2003/9/21 AM 02:52:14
    - AVI to SVCD Conversion
    - AVI2SVCD ver. 1.2.1 build 2
    --------------------------------------------------------
    Initializing
    - D:\Program Files\GSpot\0918005416.AVI
    Initializing finished.

    --------------------------------------------------------
    - 2003/9/21 AM 02:52:18
    - Free on drive D: 79.94 mb
    - AUDIO Extraction
    --------------------------------------------------------
    Audio extraction finished.

    --------------------------------------------------------
    - 2003/9/21 AM 02:52:23
    - Free on drive D: 79.41 mb
    - AUDIO conversion
    --------------------------------------------------------
    --------------------------------------------------------
    - 2003/9/21 AM 02:52:25
    - Free on drive D: 79.41 mb
    - AUDIO conversion
    --------------------------------------------------------

    Encoding Audio. Filename: D:\Program
    Files\DVD2SVCD\Movie\Extracted_audio_1.wav
    Executing BeSweet. Commandline:
    "D:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\BeSweet\BeSweet.exe" -core( -input
    "D:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\Movie\Extracted_audio_1.wav" -output
    "D:\PROGRA~1\DVD2SVCD\MOVIE\Encoded_audio_1.mp2" -logfile
    "D:\PROGRA~1\DVD2SVCD\MOVIE\Encoded_audio_1.log" ) -ota( -g max -r
    25004 25000 ) -shibatch( --rate 44100 ) -2lame( -e -b 192 -m s )
    Audio conversion of D:\Program
    Files\DVD2SVCD\Movie\Extracted_audio_1.wav finished.

    Audio conversion finished.

    --------------------------------------------------------
    - 2003/9/21 AM 02:52:37
    - Free on drive D: 79.38 mb
    - Converting Pictures
    --------------------------------------------------------
    Converting: D:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\DefaultTitlepicture.bmp
    Converting: D:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\DefaultChangeCD.bmp
    Finished converting pictures
    --------------------------------------------------------
    - 2003/9/21 AM 02:52:54
    - Free on drive D: 78.31 mb
    - Video Encoding using Cinema Craft
    --------------------------------------------------------

    Executing Cinema Craft Encoder.
    StreamSectors: 770491988
    AudioSectors: 276556
    VideoPAPO: 11931048
    ScanOffsetBytes: 190
    SeqAligningBytes: 12050
    DVDBytes: 0
    VideoEndHeader: 4
    SubtitleSectors: 0
    EmptySectors: 238.00
    PictureSectors: 300.00
    PureMPEGStream: 758272140.27
    Seconds: 11.32
    CalcMPEGStream: 758272140.27
    Frames: 158
    CDSize: 740.00
    Number of CDs: 1
    Cut point 735.00
    Variable Settings:
    Frames: 158
    Anti Noise Filter: Off
    Passes: 4
    Image Quality: 17
    VAF file creation: On
    Video Encoding Mode: Multipass VBR
    Min. bitrate: 300
    Max. bitrate: 2530
    Avg. Bitrate: 2230
    Aspect Ratio: 4:3 (No borders, encoded as 4:3)

    ---AVS Begin---
    LoadPlugin("D:\PROGRA~1\DVD2SVCD\AVISYN~1.5PL\MPEG2DEC\MPEG2D~1.DLL")
    AVISource("D:\PROGRA~1\GSPOT\091800~1.AVI",False)
    ConvertToYUY2()
    AssumeFPS(25.000,True)
    BicubicResize(480,576,0.0,0.6)
    ConvertToYUY2()
    Import("D:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\Movie\ResampleAudio.avs")
    ResampleAudio(44100)
    ----AVS End----

    WNASPI32.DLL 1.0.0.1
    The original video framerate of 25.004 is not supported. The framerate
    will be adjusted!

    <<Encoded_audio_1.log>>

    BeSweet v1.5b19 by DSPguru.
    --------------------------
    Using Shibatch.dll v0.24 by Naoki Shibata & DSPguru
    (shibatch.sourceforge.net).
    Using MP2enc.dll v1.129 (23/5/2002), Engine 1.129
    <http://www.cdex.n3.net>.

    Logging start : 09/21/03 , 02:52:32.

    D:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\BeSweet\BeSweet.exe -core( -input D:\Program
    Files\DVD2SVCD\Movie\Extracted_audio_1.wav -output
    D:\PROGRA~1\DVD2SVCD\MOVIE\Encoded_audio_1.mp2 -logfile
    D:\PROGRA~1\DVD2SVCD\MOVIE\Encoded_audio_1.log ) -ota( -g max -r 25004
    25000 ) -shibatch( --rate 44100 ) -2lame( -e -b 192 -m s )

    [00:00:00:000] +------- BeSweet -----
    [00:00:00:000] | Input : D:\Program
    Files\DVD2SVCD\Movie\Extracted_audio_1.wav
    [00:00:00:000] | Output:
    D:\PROGRA~1\DVD2SVCD\MOVIE\Encoded_audio_1.mp2
    [00:00:00:000] | Floating-Point Process: Yes
    Error 46: Invalid combination between SSRC values & FRC values.
    Quiting...
    [00:00:00:000] Conversion Completed !

    Logging ends : 09/21/03 , 02:52:32.

    <<Other files under DVD2SVCD directory>>

    Volume in drive D is DDRIVE
    Volume Serial Number is 3649-09E2
    Directory of D:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\Movie

    .. <DIR> 09-20-03 12:43 .
    ... <DIR> 09-20-03 12:43 ..
    RESAMP~1 AVS 105 09-21-03 2:52 ResampleAudio.avs
    DVD2SVCD INI 8,541 09-21-03 2:53 DVD2SVCD.INI
    DVD2SV~1 D2S 3,229 09-21-03 2:53 dvd2svcd project file.d2s
    DVD2SV~1 TXT 3,181 09-21-03 3:09 dvd2svcd_log.txt
    EXTRAC~1 WAV 529,244 09-21-03 2:52 Extracted_audio_1.wav
    ENCODE~1 LOG 1,031 09-21-03 2:52 Encoded_audio_1.log
    TITLEP~1 BMP 172,854 09-21-03 2:52 TitlePicture.bmp
    TITLEP~1 AVS 281 09-21-03 2:53 TitlePicture.bmp.avs
    CHANGE~1 BMP 829,494 09-21-03 2:52 ChangeCDPicture.bmp
    CHANGE~1 AVS 280 09-21-03 2:53 ChangeCDPicture.bmp.avs
    INTRA MTR 208 09-21-03 2:52 Intra.mtr
    NON-IN~1 MTR 208 09-21-03 2:52 Non-Intra.mtr
    AVISYN~1 AVS 295 09-21-03 2:53 AviSynth_Script_file.avs
    CCE_PR~1 ECL 3,434 09-21-03 2:53 CCE_Project_file.ecl
    TITLEP~1 MPV 0 09-21-03 2:53 TitlePicture.bmp.mpv
    TITLEP~1 VAF 37,888 09-21-03 2:53 TitlePicture.bmp.vaf
    16 file(s) 1,590,273 bytes
    2 dir(s) 81,854,464 bytes free
     
    Emil Lam, Sep 20, 2003
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  10. Emil Lam

    Samuel Paik Guest

    I have never used DVD2SVCD, but it looks like some tried to automate
    running a series of programs, and possibly didn't do it very well.

    Did you save anything at all?

    I am unsure that 25 fps is supported by SVCD, and I am fairly sure
    that 25.065 fps is unsupported. At the very least, you should
    convert to 25 fps exactly. Doing this well requires a bunch
    of steps, but try just Video->Frame Rate... in VirtualDub and
    selecting Change to [___] frames per second and fill in 25.

    Sam
     
    Samuel Paik, Sep 21, 2003
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  11. Emil Lam

    Emil Lam Guest

    Updated, this time I use virtual Dub to scan through all frames,

    http://www.geocities.com/emil_lamathk/index.html

    results indicate no error. Then I save the file to another name as
    ..avi format and called DVD2SVCD to do the conversion (see screen dumps
    for detailed settings). Basically I used the software's default. The
    software did complained the frame rate (this time 25.004) is not
    supported but it also said it will adjust that. So I go on.

    All automated steps of conversion seemed went on but the application
    windows always stayed at Cinema Craft Encoder SP (see attached image)
    and I need to explicitly close DVD2SVCD.

    Afterwards I checked the directory and found the corresponding .wav &
    ..mp2 file were produced but the .mp2 file was very small (the original
    ..avi file is 24,514KB but the converted .mp2 file is just 141 KB). I
    opened the .mp2 file with windows media player, file opened but
    nothing displayed although the play scroll bar moved. I checked the
    audio .wav file generated and it seemed the content was normal.

    I have no idea why this happened.
     
    Emil Lam, Oct 10, 2003
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