What do people use to make 16 x 20" digital prints

Discussion in 'Digital Cameras' started by normanstrong, Feb 2, 2004.

  1. normanstrong

    normanstrong Guest

    I've looked through all the ink jet printers at Office Max, Office
    Depot, etc., and non of them make anything wider than 8 1/2". How do
    people make high quality prints of larger size?


    Norm Strong
    normanstrong, Feb 2, 2004
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    PenKangborn Guest

    Glue and Staples. What the hell is wrong with you?
    PenKangborn, Feb 2, 2004
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    Bill Guest

    Bill, Feb 2, 2004
  4. Professional web-based labs are often cheaper than printing yourself with
    better quality.
    George Preddy, Feb 2, 2004
  5. Send the file to a professional lab to make a print ... AND it will last
    better than a home made one.

    Richard in Boston, MA, USA
    Richard Amirault, Feb 2, 2004
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    Arthur Small Guest

    Arthur Small, Feb 2, 2004
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    Don Stauffer Guest

    Rather than an office supply store, try a photo store that is into
    digital. I got my 13 x 17 Canon from a camera store, the biggest in
    town. They are fully into digital and video as well as film cameras.
    Don Stauffer, Feb 2, 2004
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    The Wogster Guest

    There are printers that can go wider, but you will not find them at one
    of those stores, they are specialty items (read expensive). Unless you
    do a lot of big prints, your better to use a digital capable lab, to do
    that big print. You also need to balance the cost, ink is expensive,
    photo inkjet paper is expensive, at what point does the cost of ink and
    paper exceed that of using a lab?

    The Wogster, Feb 2, 2004
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    Stewy Guest

    Many printers will now accept 13inch (330mm) paper but won't print on the
    full width - the most you can expect is around 297mm or slightly more - say
    310mm (short width of A3). In Japan Canon does make 'Nobi' paper (no border
    paper) with a 'snap-off' border.

    If you use the lighter papers (0.11mm or so) you could try printing on 2
    sheets of A3 yielding a picture around 420mm x 590mm (I'll leave the
    calculations to those non-metric diehards)

    My Canon 6100i A3 printer cost about $220. Any printer capable of larger
    sizes tends to be much (much) more expensive simply because there in little
    demand for these as home printers and printing an A3 picture with a
    3.3megapixel camera will have a PPI (pixels per inch) size of about 143 -
    near the lower limit.
    Until 6 and 8 megapixel cameras become the norm, A2 or B3 size printers will
    remain expensive.
    Stewy, Feb 2, 2004
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    Tony Spadaro Guest

    I use an Epson 3000 and will eventually go to a 4000. Three are also several
    machines that will go to 13x19 -- but I wouldn't look for them at those
    office stores. Try a photography store like Adorama
    Tony Spadaro, Feb 2, 2004
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    Tom Monego Guest

    Epson and HP have high quality large format printers,
    7600 to 24 inches $3000
    9600 to 44 inches $5000
    10600 to 44 inches (production model 3x the speed of the 9600) $7500
    4000 coming in March will be great for 16x20's $1800

    Hp equivalent to Epson
    5500 50 inch (faster than Epsons, but a slightly rougher print) $10000

    Tom Monego, Feb 2, 2004
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    RustY © Guest

    Here, here. Life is too short to piss about trying to emulate a proper
    print lab in your spare room. And which idiot buys an A3 printer for half a
    dozen prints per year. OK, form a queue..
    RustY ©, Feb 2, 2004
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    Ralph Mowery Guest

    I've looked through all the ink jet printers at Office Max, Office
    At work we use an ink jet printer/plotter. It takes roll paper about 3 feet
    Ralph Mowery, Feb 3, 2004
  14. Even if you printed 7000 16x20s a month the per cost print after the
    printer, ink, and paper costs the same or more than a real print from a pro
    George Preddy, Feb 3, 2004
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    gsum Guest


    A wet lab print of that size would cost about 5
    times as much as a print from an Epson 7600 and the
    lab print would have nowhere near the quality that
    you can get with the 7600.
    If you're printing in moderate volume for sale as I do,
    a wide format printer is indispensible and is the bargain
    of the century.

    gsum, Feb 3, 2004
  16. Non-interpolated photographs on Fuji Crystal Archive paper (precise lasar
    light exposed silver halide, not ink/dye mixed color interpolated surface
    prints) cost $2-3 per 8x10, $5-7 per 11x14, $10-15 for a 16x20, and $15-20
    for 20x30s. That's buying one print, subtract up to 50% for bigger orders.
    Most advertise ~100 years with no degradation but since it is a real
    photograph and not a surface print its probably closer to 200.

    Paper alone costs almost that much for home PC prints, ink costs about as
    much again, and the resulting quality is not comparable.
    George Preddy, Feb 3, 2004
  17. What would you know about quality? We've all seen the crap you pass of as
    good quality.
    Braindead Preddy, Feb 3, 2004
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    gsum Guest

    I was wrong. A 30x20 inch hand printed print costs
    typically 32.50 UKpounds. Thats about 7 times the
    cost of similar sized Epson 7600 print, not 5.

    You will not get 100 years without degradation
    from a colour print. I have 20 year old prints that
    have faded to nothing.

    gsum, Feb 3, 2004
  19. Even pretty expensive Shutterfly charges $17 for a 20x30. $2.50 for an
    8x10. That's for a lasar light exposed then traditionally developed Crystal
    Archive silver halide photograph from a digital file, not a surface print.
    George Preddy, Feb 3, 2004
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    gsum Guest

    Things are a bit more expensive in Treasure Island UK
    but that is still over twice my total costs for gloss or
    semi gloss. I can print on Epson's superb poster board,
    textured papers or outdoor banner
    'paper' for less than that, using metallic dyes. My prints
    look far better than any wet photographic prints
    that I've ever seen.

    gsum, Feb 3, 2004
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