What is the safest way to clean D8 camcorder tape heads?

Discussion in 'Professional Video Production' started by Tony, Sep 30, 2008.

  1. Tony

    Tony Guest

    My Sony TRV120 D8 camera is suddenly playing back tapes that look terrible. There is a lot od
    digital blocking and digital artifacts in the picture that werent recorded that way. I want to clean
    the heads but I am afraid to use an abrasive head cleaner. I also heard that alcohol could clog the
    small tiny porous heads. I know someone who had a vcr repair shop (one of the biggest in the area)
    and they only used newspaper to clean vhs heads. But, I am not sure about 8mm heads.

    What are you guys using?

    Tony
     
    Tony, Sep 30, 2008
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  2. Tony

    Bill Fright Guest

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    raid if used properly (for only a few
    Wow Richard? Hate Al Gore much? He's been spot on with my cross
    checking. Give me your list of errors by the man and I'll see if I can
    help you with that. We eat farm animals and use their waste. We have
    proven we don't need freon. What's wrong with pure anhydrous isopropyl
    alcohol? I've been using that stuff since tape machines needed air
    compressors to run.
    Yeah that's about the dumbest thing I've ever heard. That awful paper
    let alone the ink!
    I never used those tapes until I bought a digital recorder. They seem to
    work but I still prefer the old fashioned way - control wipes and alcohol.
     
    Bill Fright, Sep 30, 2008
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    Um, the problem with Freon was never that it was a greenhouse
    gas but that it tended to destroy the earth's atmospheric ozone
    layer that protects the planet (and us...) from the effects of
    strong ultraviolet radiation...
    --DR
     
    David Ruether, Sep 30, 2008
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  4. Tony

    Bill Fright Guest

    Hiding from a subject is a true sign of ignorance. Funny you make a
    wacky statement like that and refuse to discuss it. Reminds me of some
    of the haters on the radio and tv.
    Good for you for eating your veggies. What's with this great love affair
    with freon? Alcohol works just fine. Also let's think this through for a
    sec. The major source of protein throughout the evolution of man has
    been meat. Thousands of years later freon is invented and used, found to
    be destructive and banned. You come along in there somewhere and get
    upset that your world changes a tiny bit. Are we supposed to feel sorry
    for you?
     
    Bill Fright, Sep 30, 2008
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  5. Tony

    Bill Fright Guest

    Thank you David.

    I forgot the difference.

    Bill



     
    Bill Fright, Sep 30, 2008
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  6. Tony

    Bill Fright Guest

    and why do you love freon?
     
    Bill Fright, Oct 1, 2008
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  7. Tony

    Bill Fright Guest

    and why do you hate Al Gore?
     
    Bill Fright, Oct 1, 2008
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  8. Tony

    Bill Fright Guest

    I think I figured it out. Your usage of freon has rendered you useless
    in the greater sense of things. I'm glad you kept the heads so clean in
    the past and I'm sorry you're heads so messed up now. Best of luck.
     
    Bill Fright, Oct 1, 2008
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  9. "Bill Fright" wrote...
    If you were a serious industrial user of solvents, you would know
    that alcohol is NOT a substitute for all the things that Freon was
    prized for. Freon was a unique liquid in the electronics field. IPA
    is a poor substitute for many specific applications. Note that we
    are talking about liquid freon solvent, not the gas used in
    refrigeration systems, etc.

    In a similar way the "lead poisioning" craze in the EU has caused
    the entire world to remove lead from electronics items for fear of
    leaching into the water table. Never mind the fact that we have
    been using lead in water supply pipe systems literally for 2-3000
    years (lead pipes having been widely used by the Romans).

    Furthermore, removal of lead from solder, and especially from
    integrated circuits is causing a big problem with tin whiskers which
    are microscopic crystaline structures that used to be kept in
    check by the presense of lead.

    Most of the new "ROHS-compatible" components and the
    equipment built from them are a ticking time-bomb. We will
    start seeing premature, widespread failures of everything from
    $2 wristwatches to $200M guided missles as the tin whiskers
    start shorting out circuits. But we won't have to worry about
    microscopic amounts of lead leaching into our drinkingwater.
    Hope that makes you sleep better at night.

    Sidestepping the issue of carbon impact of animal protien noted.
     
    Richard Crowley, Oct 1, 2008
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  10. "Bill Fright" wrote...
    Because he is the archetypical dilettante celebrity spokesperson
    for a cause that he doesn't appear to personally understand.
    Not to mention what a blatant hypocrite he is when it comes
    to "living green".
     
    Richard Crowley, Oct 1, 2008
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  11. "Bill Fright" wrote ...
    "Hiding from a subject is a true sign of ignorance." - Bill Fright
     
    Richard Crowley, Oct 1, 2008
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  12. Tony

    Bill Fright Guest

    wow many words. I'm not a "serious user of solvents" I just use solvents
    to clean tape path. Thanks for the lecture. Give me one example in the
    world of video where freon is regarded higher than alcohol. I'll cross
    that with the engineers I know. Liquid also evaporates to be gas by the way.

    Who asked about lead poisoning? The rest of your spout must have been
    for your benefit.

    This thread was never about carbon impact. It was about your love affair
    with freon.
     
    Bill Fright, Oct 1, 2008
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  13. Tony

    Bill Fright Guest

    Okay Crowley...

    I've read his books and followed his research. Now would be the time for
    you to site specific examples.
     
    Bill Fright, Oct 1, 2008
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  14. Tony

    Bill Fright Guest

    Let me get this right. Your using my quotes about you avoiding the
    subject against me?

    Are you sure you're not Karl Rove?

    ick
     
    Bill Fright, Oct 1, 2008
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  15. Tony

    Bill Fright Guest

    You are such a pussy Crowley. The subject was your slamming Gore. That's
    what I started with. The reason I call you a pussy is because you made
    the following statements and refuse to back them up.


    Richard Crowley wrote:

    If we could have our Freon solvent back, that would be the best
    to use. Never mind that farm animals produce 100000% more green-
    house gases than solvent Freon, Algore was never big on the real
    facts, only the ones that support his theories.

    He is one of the most dangerous idiots on the planet.

    Its already been discussed througly. I have no expectation that
    you can add anything to that.

    Because he is the archetypical dilettante celebrity spokesperson
    for a cause that he doesn't appear to personally understand.
    Not to mention what a blatant hypocrite he is when it comes
    to "living green".

    End of crowley [email protected]


    If you were a thinking man you could justify any of this. Instead you
    enjoy the talking points of your masters.

    Good luck with that.
     
    Bill Fright, Oct 1, 2008
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  16. Tony

    Bob Ford Guest

    Yeah, we could do a lot for greening things up by grounding his
    private jet. He is indeed a hypocrite and a prominent name on my list
    of politicians I can't stand. I won't bother to list them but you can
    see many of them on any evening newscast.Bob Ford
    Images In Motion
    www.imagesinmotion.com
     
    Bob Ford, Oct 1, 2008
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  17. Tony

    Bill Fright Guest


    Are you kidding me? Like he's the excess in America? All I can say is
    that Al Gore has done more positive work for the environment than any
    politician in the USA since Carter. Go ahead and laugh but you must
    disprove me to enjoy the celebration. DO IT. Make me a liar and I'll
    send you a hundred dollars.
     
    Bill Fright, Oct 1, 2008
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