what lenses to buy next?

Discussion in 'Photography' started by Giff, Apr 6, 2014.

  1. Giff

    Giff Guest

    Hi all,

    I recently bought a 50mm f/1.8 lens for my nikon D7100 and, wow, it's
    quite nice compare to the 18-105 I got in the kit.

    So I want to get more lenses :)

    What would you recommend me to get? I would like, for the moment:

    - a good wide-angle lens, for taking pictures in the city, of monuments
    etc.

    - a decent zoom (I was thinking about the 80-200 f/2.8 fixed)

    Thanks for the tips!

    G
     
    Giff, Apr 6, 2014
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  2. Giff

    nospam Guest

    In article <lhrbg0$5ii$>, Giff <>
    wrote:

    > Hi all,
    >
    > I recently bought a 50mm f/1.8 lens for my nikon D7100 and, wow, it's
    > quite nice compare to the 18-105 I got in the kit.
    >
    > So I want to get more lenses :)
    >
    > What would you recommend me to get? I would like, for the moment:
    >
    > - a good wide-angle lens, for taking pictures in the city, of monuments
    > etc.
    >
    > - a decent zoom (I was thinking about the 80-200 f/2.8 fixed)


    it depends on what you want to shoot and how much you want to spend.

    the 14-24mm is a fantastic wide angle zoom and the 70-200mm vr is
    excellent and stabilized and more money than the 80-200mm that isn't
    stabilized. stabilization is *really* useful.

    for really wide there are fisheyes from nikon and others (and you can
    de-fish in software if you want).

    for monuments and other very tall things, you might even want to
    consider a tilt-shift lens, but you can usually fix the perspective
    distortion in software so it's not that critical.

    there's also the world of macro if that interests you as well as really
    long lenses for sports, birding and other more specialized uses.

    it all depends what you want to photograph.
     
    nospam, Apr 6, 2014
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  3. Giff

    Giff Guest

    On 06/04/2014 14:09, nospam wrote:

    > it depends on what you want to shoot and how much you want to spend.


    Yes, I guess this makes quite a difference. Being someone trying to
    learn and have some fun, it probably does not make sense to spend too
    much money. I have the impression that spending a few hundred bucks will
    give me quite some satisfaction compared to the kit lens.

    > the 14-24mm is a fantastic wide angle zoom and the 70-200mm vr is
    > excellent and stabilized and more money than the 80-200mm that isn't
    > stabilized. stabilization is *really* useful.


    Sure, stabilization is great. I did not know that the 80-200 did not
    have it. I still have to learn to read all acronyms on the lenses :)

    > there's also the world of macro if that interests you as well as really
    > long lenses for sports, birding and other more specialized uses.


    Yes, that might very well be the next step. But let's do them one (or
    max two) at the time :).

    Thanks a lot for your valuable input.
     
    Giff, Apr 6, 2014
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  4. Giff

    Savageduck Guest

    On 2014-04-06 10:49:38 +0000, Giff <> said:

    > Hi all,
    >
    > I recently bought a 50mm f/1.8 lens for my nikon D7100 and, wow, it's
    > quite nice compare to the 18-105 I got in the kit.
    >
    > So I want to get more lenses :)
    >
    > What would you recommend me to get? I would like, for the moment:
    >
    > - a good wide-angle lens, for taking pictures in the city, of monuments etc.


    Tokina 11-16mm f/2.8.
    < http://www.tokinalens.com/tokina/products/atxpro/atx116prodxii/ >
    < http://www.bythom.com/Tokina11-16mm_lens_review.htm >

    > - a decent zoom (I was thinking about the 80-200 f/2.8 fixed)


    The Nikkor 80-200mm f/2.8 D was a great lens 18 years ago and is still
    a great value if you can find one at a decent price ($1000-1200). It is
    a non-VR lens and does not ship with a lens hood, that will run another
    $40. However it is tough, solid and has great image quality of that
    vintage. It has been replaced in the hierarchy by the third generation
    Nikkor VRII 70-200mm f/2.8 G VRll at $2400.

    If you are looking for a good match for your D7100 and a very good
    value and performer, consider the Nikkor AF-S VR 70-300mm f/4.5-5.6G at
    $590 and can be had at lower prices. It is sharp and much lighter to
    carry than either the 80-200mm, or 70-200mm f/2.8, + you get a tad more
    reach. Choosing any of those lenses will not disappoint you.
    <
    http://www.nikonusa.com/en/Nikon-Pr...-Zoom-nikkor-70-300mm-f%2F4.5-5.6G-if-ed.html
    >


    > Thanks for the tips!
    >
    > G



    --
    Regards,

    Savageduck
     
    Savageduck, Apr 6, 2014
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  5. Giff

    Giff Guest

    On 06/04/2014 16:03, Savageduck wrote:

    > Tokina 11-16mm f/2.8.
    > < http://www.tokinalens.com/tokina/products/atxpro/atx116prodxii/ >
    > < http://www.bythom.com/Tokina11-16mm_lens_review.htm >


    Thanks, looks like a good candidate.

    > The Nikkor 80-200mm f/2.8 D was a great lens 18 years ago and is still a
    > great value if you can find one at a decent price ($1000-1200).


    I found it for less than 500, second hand.

    > It is a
    > non-VR lens


    I guess this is going to be an issue at 200mm, shooting without a tripod.

    > However it is tough, solid and has great image quality of that
    > vintage. It has been replaced in the hierarchy by the third generation
    > Nikkor VRII 70-200mm f/2.8 G VRll at $2400.


    It's a sum I would not consider spending for a lens, at this moment at
    least. I guess I'll never want to cross the 1000$ mark for a lens.

    > If you are looking for a good match for your D7100 and a very good value
    > and performer, consider the Nikkor AF-S VR 70-300mm f/4.5-5.6G at $590
    > and can be had at lower prices.


    Thanks, also this one is a possibility.

    Best,
    G
     
    Giff, Apr 6, 2014
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  6. Giff

    Savageduck Guest

    On 2014-04-06 14:03:05 +0000, Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> said:

    > On 2014-04-06 10:49:38 +0000, Giff <> said:
    >
    >> Hi all,
    >>
    >> I recently bought a 50mm f/1.8 lens for my nikon D7100 and, wow, it's
    >> quite nice compare to the 18-105 I got in the kit.
    >>
    >> So I want to get more lenses :)
    >>
    >> What would you recommend me to get? I would like, for the moment:
    >>
    >> - a good wide-angle lens, for taking pictures in the city, of monuments etc.

    >
    > Tokina 11-16mm f/2.8.
    > < http://www.tokinalens.com/tokina/products/atxpro/atx116prodxii/ >
    > < http://www.bythom.com/Tokina11-16mm_lens_review.htm >
    >
    >> - a decent zoom (I was thinking about the 80-200 f/2.8 fixed)

    >
    > The Nikkor 80-200mm f/2.8 D was a great lens 18 years ago and is still
    > a great value if you can find one at a decent price ($1000-1200). It is
    > a non-VR lens and does not ship with a lens hood, that will run another
    > $40. However it is tough, solid and has great image quality of that
    > vintage. It has been replaced in the hierarchy by the third generation
    > Nikkor VRII 70-200mm f/2.8 G VRll at $2400.
    >
    > If you are looking for a good match for your D7100 and a very good
    > value and performer, consider the Nikkor AF-S VR 70-300mm f/4.5-5.6G at
    > $590 and can be had at lower prices. It is sharp and much lighter to
    > carry than either the 80-200mm, or 70-200mm f/2.8, + you get a tad more
    > reach. Choosing any of those lenses will not disappoint you.
    > <
    > http://www.nikonusa.com/en/Nikon-Pr...-Zoom-nikkor-70-300mm-f%2F4.5-5.6G-if-ed.html


    Also,
    >

    if you want some real reach with good value take a look at the Tamron
    150-600mm. It is new on the market and at $1070 is in heavy demand.
    < http://www.tamron-usa.com/lenses/prod/150600_vc_a011.asp#ad-image-0 >


    --
    Regards,

    Savageduck
     
    Savageduck, Apr 6, 2014
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  7. Giff

    Giff Guest

    On 06/04/2014 16:29, Savageduck wrote:

    > if you want some real reach with good value take a look at the Tamron
    > 150-600mm. It is new on the market and at $1070 is in heavy demand.
    > < http://www.tamron-usa.com/lenses/prod/150600_vc_a011.asp#ad-image-0 >


    Interesting. All prices you mentioned are higher than what I find here
    (Switzerland), except this one, which sells for 1200 CHF (about 1350 USD).
     
    Giff, Apr 6, 2014
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  8. Giff

    nospam Guest

    In article <lhrmph$19m$>, Giff <>
    wrote:

    >
    > > it depends on what you want to shoot and how much you want to spend.

    >
    > Yes, I guess this makes quite a difference. Being someone trying to
    > learn and have some fun, it probably does not make sense to spend too
    > much money. I have the impression that spending a few hundred bucks will
    > give me quite some satisfaction compared to the kit lens.


    depends on the lens. i bought an 80-400mm long ago, and after 10k
    photos, i noticed that about 1% of my photos used that lens, so i sold
    it.

    > > the 14-24mm is a fantastic wide angle zoom and the 70-200mm vr is
    > > excellent and stabilized and more money than the 80-200mm that isn't
    > > stabilized. stabilization is *really* useful.

    >
    > Sure, stabilization is great. I did not know that the 80-200 did not
    > have it. I still have to learn to read all acronyms on the lenses :)


    from nikon, in decreasing price:
    70-200mm f/2.8 vr
    80-200mm f/2.8
    70-300mm f/4-5.6 vr

    other companies have other options.

    also keep in mind the 1.5x multiplier, so those are really 105-300mm,
    120-300mm, 105-450mm equivalents.

    > > there's also the world of macro if that interests you as well as really
    > > long lenses for sports, birding and other more specialized uses.

    >
    > Yes, that might very well be the next step. But let's do them one (or
    > max two) at the time :).
    >
    > Thanks a lot for your valuable input.


    any time.
     
    nospam, Apr 6, 2014
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  9. Giff

    nospam Guest

    In article <lhro72$4t3$>, Giff <>
    wrote:

    > > The Nikkor 80-200mm f/2.8 D was a great lens 18 years ago and is still a
    > > great value if you can find one at a decent price ($1000-1200).

    >
    > I found it for less than 500, second hand.


    there are several versions of that lens.

    the first two versions (push/pull) tend to sell in that range, while
    the later versions (twist ring) are generally much higher, especially
    the af-s version.

    > > It is a
    > > non-VR lens

    >
    > I guess this is going to be an issue at 200mm, shooting without a tripod.


    it can be, but you can always use a faster shutter speed and/or brace
    yourself on something.
     
    nospam, Apr 6, 2014
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  10. Giff

    Giff Guest

    Giff, Apr 6, 2014
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  11. Giff

    Savageduck Guest

    On 2014-04-06 18:25:48 +0000, Giff <> said:

    > On 06/04/2014 16:03, Savageduck wrote:
    >
    >>
    >> Tokina 11-16mm f/2.8.
    >> < http://www.tokinalens.com/tokina/products/atxpro/atx116prodxii/ >
    >> < http://www.bythom.com/Tokina11-16mm_lens_review.htm >

    >
    > Just got this one :)
    >
    > The DX, not DXII, which seems to only add the AF motor on it. Paid
    > about 500 USD for it.
    >
    > Thanks for the tip.


    That is about right for the street price. That is the version I use, I
    bought mine back in 2009 and it is a superb performer.
    Enjoy.

    --
    Regards,

    Savageduck
     
    Savageduck, Apr 6, 2014
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  12. Giff

    PeterN Guest

    On 4/6/2014 10:29 AM, Savageduck wrote:
    > On 2014-04-06 14:03:05 +0000, Savageduck
    > <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> said:
    >
    >> On 2014-04-06 10:49:38 +0000, Giff <> said:
    >>
    >>> Hi all,
    >>>
    >>> I recently bought a 50mm f/1.8 lens for my nikon D7100 and, wow, it's
    >>> quite nice compare to the 18-105 I got in the kit.
    >>>
    >>> So I want to get more lenses :)
    >>>
    >>> What would you recommend me to get? I would like, for the moment:
    >>>
    >>> - a good wide-angle lens, for taking pictures in the city, of
    >>> monuments etc.

    >>
    >> Tokina 11-16mm f/2.8.
    >> < http://www.tokinalens.com/tokina/products/atxpro/atx116prodxii/ >
    >> < http://www.bythom.com/Tokina11-16mm_lens_review.htm >
    >>
    >>> - a decent zoom (I was thinking about the 80-200 f/2.8 fixed)

    >>
    >> The Nikkor 80-200mm f/2.8 D was a great lens 18 years ago and is still
    >> a great value if you can find one at a decent price ($1000-1200). It
    >> is a non-VR lens and does not ship with a lens hood, that will run
    >> another $40. However it is tough, solid and has great image quality of
    >> that vintage. It has been replaced in the hierarchy by the third
    >> generation Nikkor VRII 70-200mm f/2.8 G VRll at $2400.
    >>
    >> If you are looking for a good match for your D7100 and a very good
    >> value and performer, consider the Nikkor AF-S VR 70-300mm f/4.5-5.6G
    >> at $590 and can be had at lower prices. It is sharp and much lighter
    >> to carry than either the 80-200mm, or 70-200mm f/2.8, + you get a tad
    >> more reach. Choosing any of those lenses will not disappoint you.
    >> <
    >> http://www.nikonusa.com/en/Nikon-Pr...-Zoom-nikkor-70-300mm-f%2F4.5-5.6G-if-ed.html
    >>

    >
    > Also,
    >>

    > if you want some real reach with good value take a look at the Tamron
    > 150-600mm. It is new on the market and at $1070 is in heavy demand.
    > < http://www.tamron-usa.com/lenses/prod/150600_vc_a011.asp#ad-image-0 >


    Yes, I have heard a lot of good things about that lens. Only the pixel
    peepers will complain about soft edges. i will try to borrow one first,
    and then run my own tests,


    --
    PeterN
     
    PeterN, Apr 9, 2014
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  13. Giff

    Giff Guest

    On 06/04/2014 23:36, Savageduck wrote:

    > That is about right for the street price. That is the version I use, I
    > bought mine back in 2009 and it is a superb performer.


    Turns out I can't control the aperture :(

    How to solve this? Seems like I could spend some more bucks on an
    adapter, but I generally dislike adapters...
     
    Giff, Apr 9, 2014
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  14. Giff

    Savageduck Guest

    On 2014-04-09 17:41:11 +0000, Giff <> said:

    > On 06/04/2014 23:36, Savageduck wrote:
    >
    >> That is about right for the street price. That is the version I use, I
    >> bought mine back in 2009 and it is a superb performer.

    >
    > Turns out I can't control the aperture :(


    ???

    > How to solve this? Seems like I could spend some more bucks on an
    > adapter, but I generally dislike adapters...


    There is no reason you should need an adaptor of any type.

    With my D300S I adjust the aperture using the front sub-command dial.
    I just checked the D7100 manual, and the same is true for your camera.
    All you should have to do is shoot in Aperture Priority Mode (A) and
    adjust the aperture with the front sub-command dial. The aperture
    should show in the LCD and in your view finder. In manual mode you
    adjust aperture with the same command dial, and shutter speed with the
    main command dial.

    If this does not work you might have bought a damaged or faulty lens
    and you are probably going to have to speak to the seller.
    --
    Regards,

    Savageduck
     
    Savageduck, Apr 9, 2014
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  15. Giff

    Giff Guest

    On 09/04/2014 21:56, Savageduck wrote:

    > There is no reason you should need an adaptor of any type.


    This sounds good. I did a quick search before and found people speaking
    about adpaters, but now I realize they were talking about other cameras,
    like a Sony NEX.

    > With my D300S I adjust the aperture using the front sub-command dial.
    > I just checked the D7100 manual, and the same is true for your camera.


    Yes, normally, that's what I would do. With this lens though the
    aperture is always fixed to F0 (preceded by a small triangle). From the
    manual:

    "Use the lens aperture ring to adjust aperture. If the maximum aperture
    of the lens has been specified using the Non-CPU lens data item in setup
    menu when a non-CPU lens is attached, the current f-number will be
    displayed in the viewfinder and control panel, rounded to the nearest
    full stop. Otherwise the aperture displays will show only the number of
    stops (F, with maximum aperture displayed as F0) and the f-number must
    be read from the lens aperture ring."

    But the lens does not even have a aperture ring, just zoom and focus,
    AFAIU...
     
    Giff, Apr 9, 2014
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  16. Giff

    Giff Guest

    On 09/04/2014 22:45, Giff wrote:
    > On 09/04/2014 21:56, Savageduck wrote:
    >
    >> There is no reason you should need an adaptor of any type.

    >
    > This sounds good.


    Nevermind. Seems like I had mounted it wrong. :)
     
    Giff, Apr 9, 2014
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  17. Giff

    Savageduck Guest

    On 2014-04-09 20:45:31 +0000, Giff <> said:

    > On 09/04/2014 21:56, Savageduck wrote:
    >
    >> There is no reason you should need an adaptor of any type.

    >
    > This sounds good. I did a quick search before and found people speaking
    > about adpaters, but now I realize they were talking about other
    > cameras, like a Sony NEX.
    >
    >> With my D300S I adjust the aperture using the front sub-command dial.
    >> I just checked the D7100 manual, and the same is true for your camera.

    >
    > Yes, normally, that's what I would do. With this lens though the
    > aperture is always fixed to F0 (preceded by a small triangle). From the
    > manual:
    >
    > "Use the lens aperture ring to adjust aperture. If the maximum aperture
    > of the lens has been specified using the Non-CPU lens data item in
    > setup menu when a non-CPU lens is attached, the current f-number will
    > be displayed in the viewfinder and control panel, rounded to the
    > nearest full stop. Otherwise the aperture displays will show only the
    > number of stops (F, with maximum aperture displayed as F0) and the
    > f-number must be read from the lens aperture ring."
    >
    > But the lens does not even have a aperture ring, just zoom and focus, AFAIU...


    For a minute there I thought you were talking about the Tokina 11-16mm
    f/2.8. Now it seems you are talking about something else entirely.

    What lens is it you bought?

    --
    Regards,

    Savageduck
     
    Savageduck, Apr 10, 2014
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  18. Giff

    Savageduck Guest

    On 2014-04-09 22:01:46 +0000, Giff <> said:

    > On 09/04/2014 22:45, Giff wrote:
    >> On 09/04/2014 21:56, Savageduck wrote:
    >>
    >>> There is no reason you should need an adaptor of any type.

    >>
    >> This sounds good.

    >
    > Nevermind. Seems like I had mounted it wrong. :)


    How the hell do you manage to mount any Nikon F bayonet mount wrong
    without damaging something???

    --
    Regards,

    Savageduck
     
    Savageduck, Apr 10, 2014
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  19. Giff

    Giff Guest

    On 10/04/2014 02:06, Savageduck wrote:

    > How the hell do you manage to mount any Nikon F bayonet mount wrong
    > without damaging something???


    I am real noob :). Nothing broke. The lens works now. Well, I found that
    when I take a picture of a white wall at f/22, some spots appear on the
    image, so I still need to contact the guy I am afraid.
     
    Giff, Apr 10, 2014
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  20. Giff

    Giff Guest

    On 10/04/2014 02:02, Savageduck wrote:

    > For a minute there I thought you were talking about the Tokina 11-16mm
    > f/2.8. Now it seems you are talking about something else entirely.
    >
    > What lens is it you bought?


    Tokina AT-X 116, 11-16mm 2.8 AF PRO DX Nikon AF-D
     
    Giff, Apr 10, 2014
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