What memory stick for Samsung SCD27?

Discussion in 'Amateur Video Production' started by geronimo, Feb 14, 2007.

  1. geronimo

    geronimo Guest

    Its mini-DV format camcorder. I thought that it used a Sony Memory
    stick PRO (long stick) MAGICGATE. So I ordered a 2GB stick. I have
    two Samsung SCD27s...identical model. Upon arrival, I tried the stick
    in both camcorders, and it seems to be the correct type of stick,
    since it is a perfect fit. It is certainly made for the slot. However,
    when switched to MEMORY and put in camera mode, it says Memory Stick
    Error! Tried it in the onther SCD27 and I get the same message. The
    write protect is not set for protect. So either the stick I received
    is bad, or it is not compatible with SCD27. The manual doesn't say
    what the SCD27 uses, but it also covers the SCD37 and it says that it
    does not use Memory Stick Pro. Wish I had seen that before ordering.
    Does anyone know for sure what stick IS compatible? I have searched
    the internet, and all the sites found so far on SCD27 don't state what
    memory to use with it.
    THe eBay vendor is saying to check compatibility, maybe its
    not...and maybe he is right.
     
    geronimo, Feb 14, 2007
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  2. geronimo

    Bill Guest

    There is a Sony Memory Stick and a Sony Memory Stick Pro.
    You need the former. It was the original format; the Pro came later and
    is not backwards compatable on all devices. My Sony TRV730 takes Sony
    Memory Stick and while a Pro will physically fit in it, it won't work.

    Bill
     
    Bill, Feb 14, 2007
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  3. geronimo

    Frank Guest


    Doesn't the Memory Stick need to be formatted prior to use?
     
    Frank, Feb 14, 2007
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  4. Other flash cards are formatted on purchase. I haven't bought a memory
    stick for a long time, so I can only guess that they *are* formatted
    when you buy them. However, it sounds to me (reading between the lines
    a little) like the camera is not giving the OP the opportunity to
    format the cards.
     
    Gene E. Bloch, Feb 14, 2007
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  5. geronimo

    Frank Guest

    You know, Gene, I've used close to a dozen Memory Stick PRO Duo cards,
    everything from 32 MB sticks to 4 MB sticks (8 MB sticks are now
    available, but I haven't started using them yet) in the Sony PSP
    (PlayStation Portable) doing AVC/AAC video for a client and for the
    life of me I can't remember whether the sticks come formatted or not.
    I do know that I always format them in the PSP itself prior to writing
    any files to them.

    I also know that Sony specifically recommends formatting them in the
    PSP prior to use. It's a standard FAT12/FAT16/FAT32 format, depending
    upon the capacity of the stick, but the PSP formatting routine adds a
    couple of hidden files and sets up a basic directory structure. The
    directory structure is specifically defined. Certain directories must
    be present on the stick in order for it to be recognized by the PSP.

    I'm quite unfamiliar with the OP's camcorder, but I figured that it
    might have a similar requirement. Most devices that use Memory Sticks
    have their own built-in formatting routine and from what he wrote in
    his original post, it didn't sound like he had run it. Assuming that
    his camcorder has a built-in formatting routine, running it might
    solve his problem.

    Another possibility is that the particular stick that the OP purchased
    is too large in capacity for his camcorder to recognize. Even PSPs
    running older versions of the PSP firmware will not recognize sticks
    over a certain size without first updating the firmware. IOW, if the
    OP purchased a 4 GB stick and his camcorder only recognizes sticks up
    to 512 MB in capacity, for example, then that could be the problem. In
    that case, he would have to use a lower capacity stick.

    As to the type of stick, there are four of them: Memory Stick, Memory
    Stick PRO, Memory Stick Duo, and Memory Stick PRO Duo. I've no idea
    which type his camcorder is designed to use. I only use Memory Stick
    PRO Duo's in the PSP, but that doesn't help the OP in any way.
     
    Frank, Feb 15, 2007
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  6. geronimo

    Frank Guest

    Corrected version. Mixed up MB and GB in my original reply because I
    was in a hurry.



    You know, Gene, I've used close to a dozen Memory Stick PRO Duo cards,
    everything from 32 MB sticks to 4 GB sticks (8 GB sticks are now
    available, but I haven't started using them yet) in the Sony PSP
    (PlayStation Portable) doing AVC/AAC video for a client and for the
    life of me I can't remember whether the sticks come formatted or not.
    I do know that I always format them in the PSP itself prior to writing
    any files to them.

    I also know that Sony specifically recommends formatting them in the
    PSP prior to use. It's a standard FAT12/FAT16/FAT32 format, depending
    upon the capacity of the stick, but the PSP formatting routine adds a
    couple of hidden files and sets up a basic directory structure. The
    directory structure is specifically defined. Certain directories must
    be present on the stick in order for it to be recognized by the PSP.

    I'm quite unfamiliar with the OP's camcorder, but I figured that it
    might have a similar requirement. Most devices that use Memory Sticks
    have their own built-in formatting routine and from what he wrote in
    his original post, it didn't sound like he had run it. Assuming that
    his camcorder has a built-in formatting routine, running it might
    solve his problem.

    Another possibility is that the particular stick that the OP purchased
    is too large in capacity for his camcorder to recognize. Even PSPs
    running older versions of the PSP firmware will not recognize sticks
    over a certain size without first updating the firmware. IOW, if the
    OP purchased a 4 GB stick and his camcorder only recognizes sticks up
    to 512 MB in capacity, for example, then that could be the problem. In
    that case, he would have to use a lower capacity stick.

    As to the type of stick, there are four of them: Memory Stick, Memory
    Stick PRO, Memory Stick Duo, and Memory Stick PRO Duo. I've no idea
    which type his camcorder is designed to use. I only use Memory Stick
    PRO Duo's in the PSP, but that doesn't help the OP in any way.
     
    Frank, Feb 15, 2007
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  7. Thanks for the thorough discussion. It's informative.

    I could argue that adding the required directories to the card is not
    formatting (in fact I have done that manually - e.g., by making folders
    using Windows Explorer, or by copying stuff from another card - to SD
    and CF cards), but that would partly be an attempt to cover my butt :)
    I also have formatted cards in camera, which is not an alternative if
    you don't want to lose your existing pix.

    Even in my Pocket PC, the system is happier if a flash card has a
    folder called My Documents. Silly...

    Obviously, it's better to just go ahead and format a (new) memory card
    in the device. I wonder - if the card is flawed, will the device detect
    that? My guess: maybe... :)

    I totally agree about the device's ability to use larger capacities
    being a possible problem.

    The list of mutually incompatible Memory Stick types is part of why I
    stay away form Sony products. This is not unique to Memory Sticks,
    though - see, for instance, 4GB SDHC, or Secure Digital High Capacity.
    Not all devices can use it.
     
    Gene E. Bloch, Feb 16, 2007
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