What TV tuner cards is everyone using and why?

Discussion in 'Amateur Video Production' started by Keith Clark, Sep 30, 2003.

  1. Keith Clark

    Keith Clark Guest

    I'm looking to add a TV tuner to my PC which runs Linux most of the time
    (90%) but occasionally runs Win2K.

    Ideally it would work with MythTV, and TV Time, and support hardware
    Xvid or Divx or mpeg-4 encoding (as well as my choice of other
    non-Microsoft formats - is DV Quicktime a possibility?) and have an
    excellent picture quality both when viewing live TV and in terms of
    captured video.

    Any suggestions appreciated...

    TIA,

    --Keith
     
    Keith Clark, Sep 30, 2003
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  2. On Tue, 30 Sep 2003 09:35:19 -0700, Keith Clark wrote:

    Suggestion:
    Its called a /televison/. You know, 26", remote control, sit on the
    couch. WTF would anyone want to watch TV in a 1.5" window is beyond me.

    later
     
    Jeffrey Silverman, Sep 30, 2003
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  3. Keith Clark

    John Miller Guest

    Because the apparent size is the same (at ~18") as a 26" TV at ~12 feet?

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    John Miller
    My email address: Domain, n4vu.com; username, jsm

    Kin, n.:
    An affliction of the blood.
     
    John Miller, Sep 30, 2003
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  4. Keith Clark

    rowan Guest

    Jeffrey, to anyone that spends a considerable amount of time at the keyboard having a window on your desktop
    for viewing TV while writing PERL scripts or updating programs is a very nice feature. It's also great for
    watching the races on Sunday while participating in online discussions about NASCAR. If you tried it and
    didn't like it, your opinion is worth considering. If you never used a TV card to display in a window while
    coding away then you should reserve comment.
     
    rowan, Sep 30, 2003
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  5. Keith Clark

    Brad Olin Guest

    I have a 13" cable TV to my left-ish at not quite an arms length. There
    is something to be said for watching news channels as you code, but why
    tax my system when I can use a proven solution for less money?

    Brad
     
    Brad Olin, Sep 30, 2003
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  6. Exactly my point. See the following:
    http://www.theonion.com/onion3308/realtimetv.html
     
    Jeffrey Silverman, Sep 30, 2003
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  7. Keith Clark

    Pacman Guest

    FWIW - I have a hauppage WinTV with v4l and it works nicely with xawtv
    and myth.

    P-
     
    Pacman, Sep 30, 2003
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  8. Keith Clark

    rowan Guest

    Yes, if you have space for a 13 inch TV it makes more sense and is cheaper. My office is cramped with disk
    sub-systems, tape robots, KVM switches and all sorts of other gear. I do not have space for a 13 inch TV.
    Yes the office could use some cleaning and older technology moved somewhere else but then I don't have test
    systems close at hand to try out new version of Linux, content management or other software. Every inch of my
    office space is in use. My Rose Ultraview 16 port KVM switch has 10 systems active on it, even with that
    there are 3 monitors still in use as the KVM cables won't reach everything.

    Then there's the aspect of capturing video & sound or still images. When the barge with thousands of gallons
    of gasoline blew up off the coast of Statten Island NY I was able to capture images from the news channels and
    feed it to my friends that didn't have a TV in their office. Also, when Mark McGuire hit his 62nd home run I
    captured the entire video. Let see you do that with a 13 inch TV. And please don't say you're going to get
    one of those with a built-in VCR.

    I agree with you guys, but in some cases having a TV card makes sense. Especially when it's purchased by my
    company and is a tax write-off.
     
    rowan, Sep 30, 2003
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  9. Keith Clark

    Keith Clark Guest

    Finally, an on-topic post! ;->

    Do you capture and archive? What formats?

    Thanks,
    Keith
     
    Keith Clark, Sep 30, 2003
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  10. Keith Clark

    Pacman Guest

    I capture using MythTV in RTJPEG or MPEG4 (divx). If you haven't
    checked out www.mythtv.org you should give it a look, its a nice DVR
    app. I've been using it for about a year and (v4l) Video4Linux drivers
    support the board nicely.

    The setup is fairly straight forward if you want to capture TV. Myth
    now supports DVB cards also.

    P-
     
    Pacman, Sep 30, 2003
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  11. Keith Clark

    Brad Olin Guest

    My TV is on top of a make do book shelf, atop a VCR, and beside the best
    that O'Reilly has to offer... My office, like most I would guess, is
    crowed with the stuff that I need (and some toys). My DVD backup drives
    (no tape here) are all internal to racks and towers below my desk at the
    back. KVMs are seldom used, but again below my U shapped desk at my
    right and below back.
    In addition to VCR tape, I have a Dazzle DVC 150. It's a hardware
    solution that outputs mpeg2 files.
    I didn't know you worked for the US gov. :)


    Brad
     
    Brad Olin, Sep 30, 2003
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  12. Keith Clark

    Keith Clark Guest

    Hey would you two take the flame-fest off-line? There are people who actually care about the topic.

    Thanks.
     
    Keith Clark, Sep 30, 2003
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  13. Keith Clark

    Keith Clark Guest

    Very cool. Thanks for the good info. :->
     
    Keith Clark, Sep 30, 2003
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  14. 1.5" window ??? WTF are you talking about? Current pc monitors
    have much higher resolutiuon than the best hdtv's.
     
    Nobody_of_Consequence, Sep 30, 2003
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  15. Keith Clark

    xman Charlie Guest

    Using a winfast nvidia geforce4, ti4200, here.

    I use a cybex switchview for changing boxes.

    Have also used raptor rt, pinnacyle dv500. Looking at the matrox x100. Might
    get it.

    I use avi format, tempg for conversion.

    The latest roxio creator 6 is working real good for my stuff. Was using nero
    quite a lot.

    Have also used the ati stuff. I really like their tv turner. Just did not
    like the captures.

    my 2 cents
     
    xman Charlie, Oct 1, 2003
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    Frank Guest

    I am vary happy using an ATI TV Wonder. This is an inexpensive (under
    $40 US) and comes with its own capture software allowing you to
    schedule captures, etc.. I use TMPEng ( an open source app) to edit
    and VideoLAN for viewing.
     
    Frank, Oct 1, 2003
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  17. Keith Clark

    leo Guest

    Simple reason: I don't have room for even a 13" TV in my office and I have a
    21" monitor so I can afford to use 320x340 for a small video window for
    casual TV viewing. Also, why waste electricity for another CRT screen? ;-)
     
    leo, Oct 1, 2003
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  18. On Tue, 30 Sep 2003 15:15:50 -0700, Keith Clark wrote:
    <snip!>

    Hey, Keith, I apologize for strating the troll/flamewar thing. I was
    feeling very snippy yesterday afternoon. I hope you have found the info
    you need.

    later...
     
    Jeffrey Silverman, Oct 1, 2003
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  19. Keith Clark

    Keith Clark Guest

    Heh heh heh... Hey man, no problem. Thanks.

    Here's a little more background into why I want a tuner card, maybe it'll
    explain things enough to stop any more flames. I should have posted this
    stuff right up front and I apologize for not doing it since it might have
    helped.

    In addition to just "watching" (since I have two monitors hooked to my
    FX5600 card I could easily turn one monitor into the equivalent of a 19"
    set), I plan to use it as a cheap PVR, since I can justify a $50 tuner card
    a lot easier than I can a Tivo at the moment. Our daughter loves stuff on
    ancient Egypt and yesterday I had to go home at lunch and switch tapes in
    the VCR so I could be sure of taping all four hours of some specials on the
    History Channel.

    Since I mapped a Windows drive from the other machines we have to the
    directory on my Linux machine where I keep stored movies, our daughter
    would then be able to watch her Egypt shows from her PC or on the big
    living room TV via our Prismiq player box
    (http://www.prismiq.com/products/index.asp), and I wouldn't have had to go
    through the hassle of switching tapes (yeah I know you can get more than
    two hours on an SVHS tape but the quality is so bad it's worse than VCD so
    why bother, especially if it's something you like).

    So that's why I'm researching tuner cards - and I have a 19" set in the den
    next to my PC too. But sometimes other people are watching that one and
    maybe I want to watch VH1 or the news and listen to the sound on
    headphones while I read my email or work from home and other people are
    watching the "real" TV.

    --Keith
     
    Keith Clark, Oct 1, 2003
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  20. Keith Clark

    FLY135 Guest

    Well, everyone in rec.video.desktop knows why you would want a TV/Tuner
    card. It's just the Linux guys that don't have a clue. After OCT14/15th I
    have 16 hours of Farscape marathon on my hard drive.
     
    FLY135, Oct 1, 2003
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