What would a professional charge for this?

Discussion in 'Digital SLR' started by Pete Mitchell, Apr 25, 2006.

  1. A quick survey on pro pricing - consider the following scenario ...

    A couple with a new baby want to have their photo taken (portrait) ...

    * They want the photographer to come to their house (small town - travel
    doesn't take long).

    * They're looking for a single 16 * 20 inch unframed print (they will take
    care of the framing)

    * They have a setting that's suitable (outdoor, with appropriate natural
    lighting) (only a little fill flash needed)

    I'm interested in knowing how much the average pro photographer would charge
    for this, and what what you all think is a fair price for this (the two
    prices don't have to be the same of course).

    (Would be helpful if you could specify what currency you're using too!)

    Cheers,
     
    Pete Mitchell, Apr 25, 2006
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  2. 150 per hour- one hour minimum plus at least 80.00 for the print at
    that price you'll run off the riff raff .
     
    Hoo Flung Poo, Apr 25, 2006
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  3. So USD $230, assuming the job didn't take more than 1 hour (which it
    wouldn't)?

    Not sure what you mean by "at that price you'll run off the riff raff" - I'm
    trying to work out what pros would charge, but not what I should charge -
    I'm just trying to see what the range will be.
     
    Pete Mitchell, Apr 25, 2006
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  4. Pete Mitchell

    RiceHigh Guest

    RiceHigh, Apr 25, 2006
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  5. No no no - you're got the wrong end of the stick - I do do it myself - and I
    even do my own printing - what I'm trying to work out is what PROS charge
    for this kind of scenario (I'm trying to work out if what a particular pro
    charged for a VERY average job) was a rip off, or pretty much the going
    rate.
     
    Pete Mitchell, Apr 25, 2006
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  6. For a decent 16x20" print you are probably going to need a quarter plate
    camera and certainly a 6x7cm. Even 12Mb DSLR will only give you 200dpi in
    the print, and this will be the approximate resolution with 35mm film as
    well, although if you use slower film you might get it up to ~300dpi
    equivalent (OTOH will the baby stay still long enough for the shot?)
     
    R. Mark Clayton, Apr 25, 2006
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  7. Pete Mitchell

    elcoggins Guest

    What I have done is to collect price sheets from local photographers as
    well as visiting their Web siites. That should give you some idea of
    "local" charges.

    Gene
     
    elcoggins, Apr 25, 2006
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  8. It's probably a good topic for another thread, but to be honest, I used to
    be quite paranoid about not dropping below 240 - but in reality we're
    finding that even 150 comes out just fine (even down to 100 on canvas)
    (native resolution anyway - I usually upsample just for the hell of it - not
    sure if that's having much of a positive effect).

    Actually, I'm quite curious as to how many pros would use something bigger
    than a standard SLR for a print that size - most of the 'pros' I've come
    across are quite happy using the likes of 20Ds (or less).
     
    Pete Mitchell, Apr 25, 2006
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  9. Upsampling? You amateurs are so cute. And keep giving away those canvas
    prints while you're at it.
    I've made excellent 16x20s with a 10D. A 20D, properly used, should
    easily get you to 20x24.
     
    Randall Ainsworth, Apr 25, 2006
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  10. Pete Mitchell

    Paul Furman Guest

    Depends on the subject matter. A soft portrait should be fine.
     
    Paul Furman, Apr 25, 2006
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  11. Pete Mitchell

    Helen Guest

    I wouldn't waste my time on a job where the word 'single' was in evidence.
     
    Helen, Apr 25, 2006
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  12. You know: = to the people who can't tell the difference between a
    professional with skill versus Auntie Maybelle's P&S & can't fathom
    paying more than the local kiosk charges to make cheesy
    backdrop pictures. The key is get your money first by finding people
    willing to pay upfront and then exceeding their expectations with regard
    to product and service.
     
    Hoo Flung Poo, Apr 26, 2006
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  13. Pete Mitchell

    RW+/- Guest

    LOL, almost spit my coffee all over the keyboard!

    T'was the most sensible reply I saw in this thread.
     
    RW+/-, Apr 26, 2006
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  14. Pete Mitchell

    zeitgeist Guest

    when pricing services and products keep in mind what other professions
    charge, or heck, if photogs had half the sense of a blue collar worker or
    anybody else that charges for skilled labor with special tools they might
    look up to a plumber, or electrician or even a car mechanic.

    What does the dealer charge to fix your car, there is a shop rate for the
    labor and a mark up on the parts.

    I charge $120 for the shoot. $250 for the print (I do spend some time
    prepping the image, some retouching etc and have it mounted.) I show the
    edited images (is that time on or off the clock? well that's what mark up
    is supposed to cover?) and sell, hopefully, more than the one image. They
    usually want more if not all the images, and yes they can have them but I
    charge per, they don't get everything on a CD like the 'craigslist'
    generation seems to think is their right since they paid for you time
    already. and offer various products like an album with 20 images, (such a
    deal) and show the work projected on the wall so they can see that a 16x20
    is really just a small image that you can hardly see the faces much less the
    expressions from the couch, sheesh, its smaller than the TV, which says what
    your priorities are? Here's an image that is an appropriate size, (say
    24x30) where the faces are about 6 inches (make a fist, that's about the
    right size to view an expression from a normal distance) so whatever size
    it takes to get the right size face.

    This reply is echoed to the z-prophoto mailing list at yahoogroups.com
     
    zeitgeist, Apr 27, 2006
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  15. Sounds like EXCELLENT advice to me.
     
    Thomas T. Veldhouse, Apr 27, 2006
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  16. Pete Mitchell

    C J Southern Guest

    I actually find that quite puzzling/interesting. So you're saying that if
    someone want's (for example) a single large photo that they're going to have
    framed and hung on their wall, you're not interested ... even if they're
    prepared to pay a minimum fee?
     
    C J Southern, Apr 27, 2006
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  17. Pete Mitchell

    RW+/- Guest

    Yes.

    If they were wealthy or rather well off, then I would not have a problem. I
    would simply charge them for the total costs+.

    If they weren't then I know they would not be happy paying a rather large
    fee for just one shot, or they would feel like they were getting ripped.
    Perhaps if I were a rather well known/famous photographer and this was a
    "rather special once of a lifetime" gift then I might feel differently, but
    I am not.

    It just would not be fair to them nor me. Of course you realize that this
    scenario is based on an onsite photo?
     
    RW+/-, Apr 28, 2006
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  18. Pete Mitchell

    C J Southern Guest

    This is quite facinating ...

    So when someone rings up asking for a quote, and you ask them how well off
    they are, do you take them at their word, or do you insist on a statement of
    financial position being included with their deposit? :)
    Pretty dangerous assumption.
    Yes.
     
    C J Southern, Apr 28, 2006
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  19. I think the point was that it is not a cost per shot, but rather a fixed cost
    + a per shot cost ... to put it rather generically. So, if they are trying to
    purchase just a single shot, then the fixed cost really dwarf the per shot
    cost of a single shot, and thus, there is an appearance of high cost. In
    fact, they should be purchasing several shots and choosing which one they want
    to hang on the wall.
    I don't think so. The assumption is that they know what they are paying for.
    More than likely, somebody well off wouldn't be paying for a single shot, but
    rather, several shots.
     
    Thomas T. Veldhouse, Apr 28, 2006
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  20. Pete Mitchell

    RW+/- Guest

    No, they would generally just be told them I'm not interested in remote
    singles. Anyone that cold calls are just price shopping anyhow.
    How so?
    Then you also know the parameters where already set up and that is what we
    are discussing?
     
    RW+/-, Apr 29, 2006
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