What's the best camera?

Discussion in 'Australia Photography' started by Big LN, Feb 20, 2008.

  1. Big LN

    Big LN Guest


    I need to buy a camera to take some holiday snaps.

    What's the best camera to buy?

    And who are the trolls in this newsgroup that I should add to my

    Big LN, Feb 20, 2008
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    Steve Brooks Guest

    Hello Leslie and welcome to aus.photo

    TO answer your second question first I hope you have the super-filter in
    action as there is one troll in this group named Douglas Macdonald that
    can have 4 - 5 name changes a day.

    He also posts as
    ryadia, technoaussie, auspics, big guy, ormiston, sebastian po, doug,
    douglas, douglas macdonald, stool pigeon, duncan donald, an interested
    bystander, one million pics, one million pictures, alan jones,
    alienjones, alienjones himself, alvie, the yowie, bigpix, pix on
    canvas, the administrator, pixby, henretta, joe bailey, graham hunt,
    healthypcs, random user 12987, MoioM, go go dancer, maddy, huey fong,
    wilder and wilder, tekoaussie, justintyme, snaps, kakadu, HPC, deciple
    of EOS, child of EOS, call me any name, keep_it_simple, notsimple,
    not_just_Simple, tropical treat, d-mac, wraped in canvas, Julian
    Abbot, Cryptopix, Aussie Aussie Aussie, Parallel Dreaming, Sarina
    Sarin, Susana Jones, Prisilla...

    And variations (D_Mac, D...Mac, etc) and punctuation
    marks... (list copied from Mark Thomas)

    I doubt you will hear from him as he hates pissheads. He refered to me
    several times yesterday as a pisspot and spending too much time in a
    pub. Apparently he learnt how to use google and found some of out aus.tv
    piss up threads.

    Onto your first question, Are you going to be taking just happy snaps or
    more in depth photos?
    Are you after a dSLR or a point and shoot? Where are you going and
    can I come too?
    Steve Brooks, Feb 20, 2008
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  3. Troll posting?
    John Phillips, Feb 21, 2008
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    Steve Brooks Guest

    Are you?
    Steve Brooks, Feb 21, 2008
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    snapper Guest

    Can't go past a Box Brownie.
    snapper, Feb 21, 2008
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    Big LN Guest

    Thanks for the suggestion. However, it's a box brownie that I'm
    upgrading from. Anyhow, I told the guy in the camera store about John
    Phillips' suggestion - the Troll Posting camera - but had never heard
    of it. When I told him I had $220 cash, he suggested the Kodak
    EasyShare M883.

    It has 8.0 MP/3X optical zoom, 7.6 cm wide-angle viewing LCD, thin
    all-metal body, 3200 ISO, digital image stabilization, HD still
    capture, and face detection technology.

    No idea what any of that means but it seems to work OK apart from the
    noise issues, prominent haloing, and sluggishness. Plus the images
    could be a little sharper,

    Oh well, you get what you pay for.

    To Steve: Thanks for the welcome. I'm heading off to the Azores for a
    homebrew conference. You're more than welcome to come along.

    Big LN, Feb 21, 2008
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    Pete D Guest

    On any list of cameras to buy I would have the Kodaks last, one of the Canon
    A series would be much better, buy the most expensive one you can afford.
    Pete D, Feb 21, 2008
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    Troy Piggins Guest

    * Pete D is quoted & my replies are inline below :
    But he's upgrading from a Kodak Brownie. Maybe he trusts the
    brand he's used to?
    Troy Piggins, Feb 21, 2008
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    Big LN Guest

    Now he tells me.

    <slaps forehead>

    Actually, the Kodak's working fine for what I want. Currently reading
    the manual and learning more each hour.

    Big LN, Feb 21, 2008
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    Pete D Guest

    Have you actually used a Box Brownie, the reality is that a pinhole camera
    is an upgrade.
    Pete D, Feb 21, 2008
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    Pete D Guest

    Missed the bit where you said you already had it, personally in this sort of
    camera I would have stayed at 5MP but it is difficult these days, I still
    have my Sony V1, truly still a camera ahead of its time. Still a A540 with
    IS looks quite nice.
    Pete D, Feb 21, 2008
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    Troy Piggins Guest

    * Pete D is quoted & my replies are inline below :
    :) I was being funny, or maybe not. :)
    Troy Piggins, Feb 21, 2008
  13. Geez, you move fast, Big.. Less than a day and you've bought it. So
    why'd ya ask us? (O:

    Most of the Kodak's aren't bad, and are quite good value for money...
    but there are better. However, if you are not into all the computer
    editing stuff and just want snappy looking pictures from a simple-to-
    use camera, then you've probably made a decent enough choice. 70%
    photographer, 30% camera, I reckon - and the smaller you are going to
    print and the less challenging the shooting conditions, then the
    camera becomes even less important....
    So just get on with shooting and make the most of what you have.
    Don't forget to bravely post your results here!

    But to answer your question (too late!) as Pete said regarding
    compacts, the Canon A's are a very good line, and Sony, Fuji and Nikon
    all make various good to great models with Panasonic, Olympus and
    Kodak perhaps lagging a little with some of their models. There
    aren't many dogs of cameras (or brands) frankly. (Except maybe the
    Sigmas and the Leica M8, neither of which are likely to enter into
    your considerations...)

    The M883 gets a few reviews around the place, and it seems to be the
    consensus that it has a good feature set, and is generally ok, but the
    images suffer a bit from noise. So try to shoot in good light, avoid
    underexposure, and maybe get yourself a copy of Neat Image, Noiseware,
    or any of the other noise reduction programs to clean up any important

    As for the trolls, modesty doesn't permit ... But if it's *characters*
    you want - take a long critical look at posts from Doug (Cryptopix)
    "St James" MacDonald, 'Rita' Berkowitz, Annika, Noons... I hope I
    haven't offended anyone by leaving them out.

    The rest of us, like Jeff R., Pete, Troy, Rusty (Pixelpix), Doug
    Jewell, Father McKenzie, Atheist Chaplain, Colin D., Vintage Monk and
    a multitude of others? We're just calm, considered, lovely, normal,
    well-mannered folk...

    (Again, I apologise for omissions - please add your name to either
    mark.thomas.7, Feb 21, 2008
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    Pete D Guest

    I take exception to well mannered and rarely calm........ ;-)
    Pete D, Feb 21, 2008
  15. Oh, alright, I didn't supply the appropriate emoticon. So, what *is*
    the smilie for tongue in cheek...?
    mark.thomas.7, Feb 21, 2008
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    Gerrit Guest

    I have always thought that :) is an ordinary smiley and that the one posted
    above here by Pete ;-) is the raised eyebrow (tongue in cheek) one.

    BTW I haven't bothered to check the model Kodak the OP purchased but if it
    has a Schneider lens then it is not bad. I have one of those at 3Mp and it
    takes pretty good pics for what it is. And as someone said 70% photographer
    and 30% camera.
    Sometimes it takes a better pic than my Nikon D50. :)
    Gerrit, Feb 21, 2008
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    Big LN Guest

    Thanks for the comments. I posted my query before work with the
    intention of arrming myself with the information in the replies to
    dazzle the salesman with when I went looking for a new camera after

    Unfortunately, during those nine hours the only suggestions were "troll
    post" and "box brownie" which didn't exactly dazzle the salesman - just
    made him laugh at me.

    I'll see how I go then might look into those editing packages you

    Cheers mate.

    Big LN, Feb 21, 2008
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    Steve Brooks Guest

    Don't forget if you can't take a full width pano you can always just
    mirror 1/4 of it with photoshop.


    Remember this gem?
    Steve Brooks, Feb 22, 2008
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    Big LN Guest

    Photoshop it? Sounds a bit dodgy to me. I prefer that my future photos
    will be a true representation of actual events.

    Big LN, Feb 24, 2008
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    Pete D Guest

    Are you that sure that the little Kodak will capture the scene exactly as it
    was, personally I would have my doubts that any camera will, film or
    digital. A little PPing sometimes goes a long way.
    Pete D, Feb 24, 2008
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