What's the price of Helix server

Discussion in 'Amateur Video Production' started by Iztok, Apr 28, 2006.

  1. Iztok

    Iztok Guest

    Hi!

    I'm considering to buy Helix Server Unlimited with DRM support. I
    looked everywhere to find a price for DRM but I had no luck. Please
    help me out. Thank you.
     
    Iztok, Apr 28, 2006
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  2. "Iztok" wrote ...
    Free would be too much. Note that a growing number
    of people wouldn't touch a Real Networks format or
    player with a 10-foot pole.
     
    Richard Crowley, Apr 28, 2006
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  3. Iztok

    Iztok Guest

    Hi!

    Then please share with me which software works great, like RealVideo
    does, and it works on every platform, like RealVideo does? I was
    considering Quicktime Streaming Server but it does not contain DRM
    privileges.
     
    Iztok, Apr 29, 2006
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  4. Iztok

    J. Clarke Guest

    Back Orifice?
    How do I get it to work on a System/360?
    DRM-just say no.
     
    J. Clarke, Apr 29, 2006
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  5. Windows Media
     
    Richard Crowley, Apr 29, 2006
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  6. Then please share with me which software works great, like RealVideo
    And the dark horse candidate: Flash Video
    Turns out that likely more computers come already
    equipped to play Flash than any other encoding.
     
    Richard Crowley, Apr 29, 2006
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  7. Iztok

    Iztok Guest

    Hi!

    I'm aware that previus versions of Realplayer have installed malware
    but that's not the case with the new version. I meant by every
    platform, Linux, Mac and Windows. If you say no to DRM, how can you
    then protect your video/music?
     
    Iztok, Apr 29, 2006
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  8. Iztok

    J. Clarke Guest

    Yeah, right.
    I wouldn't. Copy protection is a doomed strategy. All it does it piss off
    the honest, create opportunities for the unscrupulous, and provide
    amusement for hackers.
     
    J. Clarke, Apr 29, 2006
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  9. The "new version" doesn't *install* malware.
    The "new version" IS malware.
     
    Richard Crowley, Apr 29, 2006
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  10. Iztok

    Anonymous Guest

    FWIW, I will ONLY install codec/decodecs to play content on the player
    of MY choice. For Real/Quicktime, that means Real/Quicktime
    alternative.
    Good choices for those platforms include XviD and MPEG. A lesser, but
    sometimes acceptable choice, is "flash video".
    Think about being a good neighbor rather than attempting to frustrate
    them.

    DRM is bad, bad, bad...

    <http://www.dashes.com/anil/stuff/doctorow-drm-ms.html>
    <http://www.eff.org/IP/DRM/guide/>
    <http://www.securityfocus.com/columnists/390/1>
     
    Anonymous, Apr 30, 2006
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  11. Iztok

    Iztok Guest

    Hi!

    I've checked my computer with several anti-malware programs and it is
    clean :) But I agree with you to some degree. Not so long ago Real
    released a Free Realplayer which contained a Weather malware
    (ADW_MINIBUG.A). And it was only discovered with Trend Micro PC-cillin
    Internet Security 2005 software. But they decided, that it is better to
    exclude this malware from their product. Which is a good thing.
     
    Iztok, Apr 30, 2006
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  12. Iztok

    Iztok Guest

    Think about being a good neighbor rather than attempting to frustrate
    them.

    Sorry but I can't agree. If I'm going to be, as you say a good
    neighbour, then one person will pay for my content and all the others
    will get it for free. Because he will share it. But if I use some sort
    of a DRM, then everybody will pay for it and that's what I'm looking
    for.
     
    Iztok, Apr 30, 2006
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  13. Iztok

    J. Clarke Guest

    You mean you don't have Realplayer installed?
    You really don't seem to understand the problem. It's not that some third
    party product has been included, it is that Real itself invades many areas
    that it should not invade just to play music and video.

    If you want to find a market for whatever content you are planning on
    delivering you would do better to find out what people are actually using
    than go with something that is universally detested and that knowledgeable
    users avoid like the plague.
     
    J. Clarke, Apr 30, 2006
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  14. Iztok

    Iztok Guest

    Yes I have an installed Realplayer and I used it to play RealNetowrks
    audio/video files. I have to say it's a very good product, a lot better
    then Windows media player. Please provide me with a site which explains
    this weird behaviour of RealPlayer? NAd please tell me of a software
    which doesn't invade your privacy?!?

    Your are right. I have looked and searched what my users use to play
    their audio/video files. The biggest obstacle is, that every other
    software I tried doesn't handle DRM files. And that's exactly what I
    need. At the end there are only two options:
    1. RealNetworks
    2. Windows Media Player

    But Realnetwork kicks ass compared to WMV files!
     
    Iztok, Apr 30, 2006
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  15. Iztok

    J. Clarke Guest

    Use Realplayer if you want to. But don't come crying to us when you lose
    your shirt. I'm certainly not going to be viewing or listening to it.
     
    J. Clarke, Apr 30, 2006
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  16. You seem to have made up your mind. So why don't you just ask
    your buddies over at Real Networks the question. They are the
    only ones who can actually answer it. After all the shilling you
    have done for them here, maybe they will give you a price break.

    It doesn't change their horrible reputation out in the real world.
    You can count me among the millions of potential customers
    who will never see/hear your product if you choose the Real
    format trash.
     
    Richard Crowley, Apr 30, 2006
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  17. Iztok

    Anonymous Guest

    Well, I can't argue with you there.

    DRM has frustrated billions of potential pirates and made them
    completely unable to copy DVD-Video (DeCSS), VHS tapes with
    Macrovision (TBC), iTunes (FairPlay/JHymm), eBooks, etc.

    I know at least one use who will never pay for a product with DRM crap
    like you want.
     
    Anonymous, Apr 30, 2006
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  18. Iztok

    Anonymous Guest

    No it doesn't.

    I am certainly NO microsoft fan, but WMV is a much more user-friendly
    platform than Real. The only Real I will use is that which works with
    Real Alternative and Media Player Classic.
     
    Anonymous, Apr 30, 2006
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  19. Amen

    Gino
     
    Gene E. Bloch, May 1, 2006
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  20. Iztok

    Iztok Guest

    Hi!

    One more thing. Can WMV files be played on a Mac? I know that Microsoft
    released Media player 9 for Mac, but I don't know if it is compatible
    with DRM rights?And what about flip4mac? Any mac users here?
     
    Iztok, May 2, 2006
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