Where to buy D70. Broadway Photo?

Discussion in 'Digital SLR' started by Sheldon, Jan 18, 2005.

  1. Sheldon

    Sheldon Guest

    I'm in the US.

    I'm looking for a Nikon D70, and most places have it for around $1200.
    Broadway Photo has the kit for $849, with better prices if you settle for
    other lenses. This seems a little low to me, and I was wondering what to
    watch for and what to ask before making a final purchase. Obviously, I
    would make sure it comes with the Nikon lens, but the deal just seems too
    good to be true. Does the kit include the rechargeable battery and charger?

    Any thoughts? Any experience with Broadway Photo?

    Thanks

    Sheldon
     
    Sheldon, Jan 18, 2005
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  2. Richard Fateman, Jan 18, 2005
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  3. Sheldon

    chris Guest


    I had never dealt with them but no doubt you get what you pay for or
    more likely you'd never get what you want at that price. If you want low
    price in a reliable source, I'd suggest BuyDig. You do need to be sure
    that you want the model, otherwise, you won't get all your money back,
    not even if you want to upgrade to a more expensive model. Otherwise,
    pay full price at B&H if you want hassle free.
     
    chris, Jan 18, 2005
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  4. Sheldon

    Sheldon Guest

    Yikes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Sounds like one of those companies that opens the box and sells you every
    component separately. It didn't look like they included the rechargeable
    battery and charger, but I'm not sure.
     
    Sheldon, Jan 18, 2005
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  5. charger?

    Here's how to find the lowest prices.
    1. Goto www.froogle.com and type the item you wish to buy
    2. Sort by price "Lowest to Highest"
    3. Pickup the store with the lowest price.
    4. Goto www.resellerratings.com and enter the store name there.
    5. Read the store rating and reviews.
    6. If happy, order from the store, else go back to "1"
    You can also use bizrate.com instead of froogle.

    - Siddhartha
     
    Siddhartha Jain, Jan 18, 2005
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  6. Sheldon

    Ron Lacey Guest

    I beleive BW Photo sells grey market cameras which is how they keep
    their prices so low. If that's the case I'd avoid them.

    Ron

    Ron Lacey
    Murillo Ontario
     
    Ron Lacey, Jan 18, 2005
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  7. Even B&H and Adorama sell grey market equipment. Selling grey market
    equipment isn't the right parameter for selecting a store.

    - Siddhartha
     
    Siddhartha Jain, Jan 18, 2005
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  8. Sheldon

    C Wright Guest

    You do don't understand grey market. B&W clearly identifies which of their
    equipment is grey market and which is not so you know what you are buying.
    They also explain exactly what you need to do if you have a warrantee issue
    with their grey market equipment. If you don't want grey market equipment
    from them you can buy their regular warrantee stuff. Me personally - I don't
    think that I would buy a grey market camera, but I might consider a grey
    market lens.
     
    C Wright, Jan 18, 2005
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  9. I have placed around 20 orders with B&H (www.bhphoto.com) since I began
    ordering from them around 1 year ago. I have not had ONE problem with any
    of my orders. All the orders where placed online and arrived within the
    shipping time.

    I have heard MANY horror stories about broadway photo. I would avoid them
    at all costs.
    Good luck!
     
    D70 Is the Best!, Jan 18, 2005
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  10. Sheldon

    Ron Lacey Guest

    I certainly do and I choose not to buy grey market goods. Your
    decission to purchase or not is up to you.

    Ron

    Ron Lacey
    Murillo Ontario
     
    Ron Lacey, Jan 18, 2005
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  11. Sheldon

    Darrell Guest

    Buy any camera from the USA import into Canada amounts to a grey market
    camera. Nikon et al will refuse to service it..
     
    Darrell, Jan 18, 2005
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  12. www.tristatecamera.com - very good online store with reasonable pricing. Unfortunately, my deal didn't get through because you guys have some strange restrictions in US. If I pay by international credit card, my bill-to must match ship-to and it all has to match credit card holder's address. Sounds weird...
     
    y3k via PhotoKB.com, Jan 18, 2005
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  13. I don't believe it. The opposite is certainly not true: If you buy a Nikon
    camera in person outside the USA from an authorized dealer, Nikon USA will
    repair it under warranty with no complaint.
     
    Andrew Koenig, Jan 19, 2005
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  14. Sheldon

    Buster Guest

    Sorry but that is no longer true. Nikon USA has told us that they will
    not repair a non-US import camera, even out of warranty. They have an
    International Warranty, not a US Warranty.
    Buster
     
    Buster, Jan 19, 2005
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  15. Sheldon

    Buster Guest

    This is very common. It is to prevent credit card fraud. PayPal also
    follows this criteria for you to have a Verified Address on your
    account.
    Buster
     
    Buster, Jan 19, 2005
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  16. The issue with Broadway Photo / A&M Photo / Digital Liquidators, and
    whatever other stores these people operate under, isn't grey market, it's
    bait-and-switch.

    HMc
     
    Howard McCollister, Jan 19, 2005
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  17. Sheldon

    Musty Guest

    You get what you pay for, and if you pay very little, you may get nothing.
    There are only 2 stores to buy phot gear from:

    www.17photo.com
    www.bhphoto.com

    Never had any issue, always in stock, no need to "confirm" the order, just
    professional and honest. Also beware of ritz camera, they do have retail
    stores, but the online ones are the bait and switch operations.

    I am assuming you went to resellerratings.com

    That "broadway" place looks real sleazy.
     
    Musty, Jan 19, 2005
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  18. Not true. Grey market refers to purchasing a camera that was imported via
    "parallel import path". B&H, for example, sells some grey market Nikon
    lenses. They didn't purchase them from Nikon USA, they purchased them from
    Nikon Asia, or Nikon Europe, or someplace where that Nikon distibutor's
    pricing structure, or strength of the dollar against local currency allows
    B&H to resell the item at a lower price than what they sell Nikon
    USA-purchased lenses for.

    If someone in Europe were to buy a NikonUSA-imported camera from B&H, the
    warranty would still be valid since it's not grey market. Now, the purchaser
    would have to send it back to Nikon Service in the USA to do that, since the
    Nikon USA warranty is only valid in the USA (Nikon Europe won't service it),
    but if you buy a camera that was imported via Nikon-authorized import
    channels, it's not grey market no matter where you live, or ultimately have
    the camera shipped.

    And it is true that Nikon will refuse to repair any grey market device, even
    if you pay them. Additionally, note that Nikon no longer supplies repair
    parts or manuals for complicated devices like dSLRs, VR or AF-S lenses, and
    most flashes, to third party repair places (even if they are otherwise
    "Nikon Authorized Repair" facilities). The end result is that if you buy
    grey market, you will not be able to get Nikon service anywhere to fix your
    camera/lens/flash. B&H doesn't sell grey market dSLRs, but they do sell grey
    market lenses. In that case, they offer only a 1 year warranty through B&H
    instead of the 5 year Nikon warranty.

    Look at http://www.bythom.com/warranty.htm

    HMc
     
    Howard McCollister, Jan 19, 2005
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  19. Completely oposite holds for Canon: it will serice both gray-market and US
    Canon SLRs (and DSLRs). A friend of mine from Germany who bought his camera
    from B&H (and had it shipped to Canada to pick in during his visit here)
    had his Canon 10D repaired twice (free of charge, as a warratny service)
    locally in Germany and 3rd time had his (a lemon?) replaced by Canon
    Germany!

    Now this is what I call a proper service! If you are proud to be able to
    produce a good camera (like a Nikon D70 is), you should stand behind it in
    all respect and not refuse to service it if it is not bought in a proper
    place.

    What if I bought my camera in (say) UK and moved to US few months later
    (completely legitimate case)? My Nikon (and Sony and who knows whose elses)
    products will immediatelly become non-servicable!

    This is silly. We live in a global world. International warranty should
    apply everywhere (as its name says).

    Dragan

    --
    Dragan Cvetkovic,

    To be or not to be is true. G. Boole No it isn't. L. E. J. Brouwer

    !!! Sender/From address is bogus. Use reply-to one !!!
     
    Dragan Cvetkovic, Jan 19, 2005
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  20. Sheldon

    Darrell Guest

    Mamiya has asked the US Customs to seize Grey Market Mamiya products, as
    Mamiya USA owns the trademark. All Grey Market goods can be classed as
    trademark infringement. I am surprised all importers don't make the same
    request to Customs.

    "Mamiya America Corporation has registered the MAMIYA Trademark with the
    U.S. Patent and Trademark Office (PTO), and has recorded this mark with the
    United States Customs Service for import protection in accordance with 19
    C.F.R. Part 133.

    Under Section 526 (a) of the Tariff Act of 1930, the importation of any
    foreign-origin merchandise bearing the MAMIYA trademark, without the written
    consent of Mamiya America Corporation, is unlawful and prohibited.
    Unauthorized importations are subject to seizure and forfeiture by the
    United States Customs Service.

    Mamiya America Corporation has directed Customs to enforce this trademark
    aggressively, and to prohibit the importations of "gray-market" merchandise.
    Mamiya America Corporation will also pursue all of its available remedies
    for injunctive relief and damages against any persons who import,
    distribute, sell or otherwise deal in gray market merchandise bearing the
    Mamiya trademark.

    All information and offers contained herewith apply to the USA only.
    © 2005 Mamiya America Corporation"

    Cite: http://www.mamiya.com/about.asp?id=6&id2=142
     
    Darrell, Jan 19, 2005
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