Which camera would you recommend

Discussion in 'Photography' started by Kevin J, Nov 1, 2006.

  1. Kevin J

    Kevin J Guest

    I'm just starting out in digital photography. Right now i am just using
    my Fuji FinePix A203 P&S. I am looking to take pictures of landscape,
    people, nature,. I was looking at 3 different cameras, the Olympus
    Evolt E-500, Nikon D70s, and the Canon Rebel XT. I'm trying to keep my
    cost as low as possible. However I also don't want a crap camera. My
    budget is around the $1000 CAD mark.

    Thank
     
    Kevin J, Nov 1, 2006
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  2. Kevin J

    All_Thumbs Guest

    You might give consideration of the D-50 with the kit lens for the D-70. The
    18-70mm is a considerably better lens than the 18-55mm lens which normally
    ships with the D-50.

    If you can spring a little more money loose, just buy the D-50 body and get
    the 18-200mm VR lens. That would definitly put you over 1000$ Kanuckian
    Dollars.

    I am in Timmins Ontario.

    Rudy Benner

    ps - My other cameras include both Olympus and Canon, one of each.
     
    All_Thumbs, Nov 1, 2006
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  3. Kevin J

    Pete D Guest

    Also look at the Pentax K100D, nice package with twin lens kit and IS built
    into the camera.
     
    Pete D, Nov 1, 2006
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  4. canon rebel of one version or another they are under a grand on sale, and
    take nice pix... kk
     
    www.kevinkienlein.com, Nov 1, 2006
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  5. But, like the Nikon mentioned above, get a better lens. The standard 18-
    55mm is pretty dire and lets the rest of the kit down.

    Rich
     
    Richard Polhill, Nov 1, 2006
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  6. Kevin J

    m Ransley Guest

    Read reports at dpreview, Id probably go Canon but you forgot Sony and
    Panasonic they have I.S.
     
    m Ransley, Nov 1, 2006
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  7. Kevin J

    Surfer! Guest

    I can see why you want something better than the Fuji, as at 2 megapixel
    you will struggle to do A4 prints from it.

    However, don't forget that a lot can happen to a digital image after it
    leaves the camera to improve it - cropping, straightening horizons,
    fixing histograms, curves and so on - and unless you are pursuing that
    side of things as well you are leaving half the game out of the
    equation.

    Doing these things means having a decent bit of software and a decent PC
    to do it on. Most people will recommend Photoshop but it's *very*
    expensive and there are others around much cheaper that will help you do
    the basics. PaintShopPro is one, Paint.Net is free and so is IrfanView
    though I've not tried editing in the later two. You might get something
    suitable with a digital camera, but I'm not convinced.

    You need to think in terms of at least 1GB RAM in your PC as well, plus
    if you are printing you might find yourself wanting a better printer...
    Also, you will need extra memory cards - 512MB at a minimum unless you
    are happy to get 3 or 4 shots before whatever comes with the camera is
    full.

    My advice would be to spread the $1,000 across the areas of camera,
    software and PC. For cameras other than D-SLR I'd suggest you check the
    Canon Powershot A710-IS (7.1MP) , and their S3IS (6MP). Both have image
    stabilisation, the A710 has a 6x optical zoom and the S3IS a 12x optical
    zoom. The S3 got a good writeup at dpreview.com, they don't seem to have
    given the A710 the full works yet. Also, Canon cameras come with
    PhotoStitch which does an excellent job of combining overlapping shots
    into panoramas, if that format happens to appeal to you. The kind of
    camera I've suggested comes in at $350 according to amazon.com, which
    would leave you plenty of money for memory cards, software and PC
    upgrades. The main limitations of this kind of camera compared to a
    D-SLR are 1) you don't see through the lens, so using filters
    (especially polarising filters) is hard even if there is a filter ring,
    2) the lens quality is potentially better on a D-SLR - but you can pay
    megabucks for a single lens, 3) larger sensors should have less noise
    and the sensors in D-SLR cameras are usually larger than in smaller
    ones.

    Having said all the above, IMHO most of what makes a great photo is what
    goes on in the photographers head, not the gear he or she uses. Great
    gear cannot make up for lack of inspiration / creativity / perspiration
    and so on.
     
    Surfer!, Nov 1, 2006
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  8. Kevin J

    UC Guest

    Don't. Just stand and look.
     
    UC, Nov 1, 2006
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  9. As an owner of a Nikon D70, I can assure you that you will not be
    unhappy with it --- maybe with the lens that comes with the kit,
    but you can always buy the body only, and get a slightly better
    lens (oen that is not "especially made" for DSLR cameras --- I am
    serious; I know it sounds ridiculous and contradictory, but lenses
    especially made for DSLR cameras are about the worst idea ever).

    However, the best thing you could do is go to the camera store and
    hold all the candidate models on your hands; look at them, see how
    the buttons feel when you press them. I say that because all of
    those cameras are good (not familiar with the Olympus, but if it is
    the model I think it is, then it surely is good), and definitely do
    not qualify as "crapp cameras" --- so, it's a matter of your own
    personal/subjective decision based on which one feels better on
    your hands. I can assure you, the D70 feels extraordinarily well
    on my hands!!! :)

    Carlos
    --
     
    Carlos Moreno, Nov 1, 2006
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  10. Kevin J

    bmoag Guest

    Best bang for the buck: Sony alpha with 18-70 lens-10mp sensor, IS, sensor
    cleaner. Possibly the best dSLR kit lens out there. Downside: limited lens
    selection but rapidly improving. Extensive backlog of used Minolta af
    lenses, generally good quality.
    Best buy in 6 mp dSLR: Pentax K100d with kit lens-IS, probably best lens
    catalog for the price. Downside: 6mp sensor. Will likely soon be replaced
    with ubiquitous Sony 10mp sensor.
    Spend a bit more: Nikon D80. Magnificent image quality, Nikon $y$tem.
    Downside: Nikon lenses cost $$, not always worth it, many are.
    Canon XTi: unique in Canon arsenal, may be best buy in their line-up. Join
    Canon marketing juggernaut and constant, sometimes dubious upgrade cycle.
    Like Nikon many lenses overpriced, some low end lenses of dubious quality
    (dSLR Canon kit lenses in particular).
    My personal recommendation: think about the Sony alpha. If I were not locked
    into Nikon I would seriously consider this camera myself.
     
    bmoag, Nov 1, 2006
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  11. Kevin J

    Chris Hills Guest

    There is no Nikon mentioned above....
     
    Chris Hills, Nov 1, 2006
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  12. Kevin J

    Chris Hills Guest

    I bought a Nikon D70s recently its a good camera. Everyone has their
    favourite but the D70 & D70s have been around a while, lots of people
    have used them a lot and no one has a bad word against them.

    I think the only reason why Nikon is changing to the D50 and 80 is the
    D70 is 6mp and they wanted to move up to 10mp.

    You should get some good deals on the D70s with the 18-70 lens now
     
    Chris Hills, Nov 1, 2006
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    Pete D Guest

    There is in the OP.
     
    Pete D, Nov 1, 2006
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  14. Kevin J

    Pete D Guest

    You forgot Pentax, they have the choice of having IS (SR) or not.
     
    Pete D, Nov 1, 2006
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  15. Kevin J

    Chris Hills Guest

    In message
    When replying people should quote correctly.
     
    Chris Hills, Nov 1, 2006
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  16. Kevin J

    Pete D Guest

    Good for you, you are now officially the person that tells everyone off
    without actually posting anything constructive, fill ya boots mate.
     
    Pete D, Nov 2, 2006
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  17. "Fill ya boots"? I like that. Does it have anything to do with wetting
    oneself?

    I wonder if Chris Hills would prefer me to quote the whole thread in
    future?
     
    Richard Polhill, Nov 2, 2006
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  18. Kevin J

    Chris Hills Guest

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    It is something constr5uctive. Some people post on the web based front
    end to usenet eg google and think that everyone sees the same view they
    do. Hence they done quote properly.

    What you end up with is a series of comments out of context. No use to
    anyone.

    This has been a problem in other Usenet NG's over the last year or two.

    Read the Charter and FAQ's for this group. There have to be some to form
    an alt NG.
     
    Chris Hills, Nov 2, 2006
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  19. Kevin J

    Pete D Guest

    Listen "Chris Hills", if such a person actually exists, I did a check and I
    couldn't actually find any posts from you that were photo related, now post
    something about photos or bugger off.
     
    Pete D, Nov 2, 2006
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  20. I bought a used tamron 28-200 and it seems to do quite well, but in the
    spring I want to get a macro, 3-400 zoom and a wide angle... sheesh, I wont
    have time for the rest of my life then.... come to think of it, I don't have
    time right now!! kk


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    www.kevinkienlein.com, Nov 2, 2006
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