Which Digital camera? Sony P72 vs Cannon A70 vs Something else?

Discussion in 'Sony' started by daniel d, Dec 25, 2003.

  1. daniel d

    daniel d Guest

    hi all,

    I wanted to get a digital camera but cant decide between these two.
    Im open to hear opinions on other cameras as well, stick to price
    range of ~$500 please. Im very interested to know of suitable Olympus
    alternatives.

    Ive read reviews and they both come out as fairly good cameras.

    Which would you recommend and why?

    Im more interested in quality of camera itself, lens used and pic
    quality then other features.

    Im not a pro so I dont need pro features. Im just a novice that would
    like the take decent average joe pics during the day and night.

    I would be taking this camera overseas in the near future.

    I would be very interested to hear opinions from people that own and
    use these cameras.

    My toss ups are as follows:

    The main diff is price, ive found a place that sells the A70 at only
    $520 compared with the closer to $600 price with most stores.
    However the A70 doesn't come with rechargable batteries unlike the
    sony model listed.

    Features wise they are both on pretty much on par but the canon has
    more manual control.

    The canon requires 4 batteries and the sony only 2. The sony is
    smaller and lighter than the canon.

    The Canon takes CF cards but the sony requires Memory stick. CF cards
    are about half the price.

    Doing a total cost analysis which includes a 256MB mem card I find
    that the sony wins due to the fact that rechargable batteries are
    included. However if I get a cheaper rechargable battery pack for the
    canon and not the recommend ones the price diff is not that great.
    What is the quality like on the cheaper/3rd party rechargable battery
    packs?

    thanks
     
    daniel d, Dec 25, 2003
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    Miro Guest

    Just buy the camera with the least costly technology. Sony Memory Stick is
    HIDEOUSLY overpriced compared to CF cards. If budget is only $500, look at
    the total cost of ownership. Sounds like a Canon to me.
     
    Miro, Dec 25, 2003
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  3. Don't know about the sony batteries, but I have an A70 an can tell you
    that it takes standard AA batteries. Cheap as!!!

    Phil Windsor
     
    Phillip Windsor, Dec 25, 2003
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  4. daniel d

    Gary B Guest

    I bought 2 sets of 4 Energizer 1850 NiMH batteries for my A70 around 5
    months ago. They haven't been through a huge number of cycles but there
    have been no problems so far. Cost was around $20 for each of the two sets.

    Regards, Gary
     
    Gary B, Dec 25, 2003
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  5. daniel d

    daniel d Guest

    Did that include a charger or just the batteries?
    How long does a fully charged camera last? ie. approx how many shots?
    I know it depends on usage of lcd, flash ect... but im just looking
    for an average users consumption.

    What I really want to know is will it last a day if I take enough
    photos to fill a 256MB card? Or am I best off getting 2 sets of 4 just
    in case like you?

    thanks
     
    daniel d, Dec 25, 2003
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  6. daniel d

    daniel d Guest

    hi,

    My budget is not $500, that was just for the camera alone.
    Total cost should fall between $700 and $800. This is to include a
    256MB card and at least enough rechargable batteries that the camera
    requires (good ones like 1500-2100) and a charger, preferably a
    "quick" charger.

    I should have made this clearer earlier.

    In my last paragraph you will note that I have taken into
    consideration the extra price of Sony memory sticks but due to the
    fact that the sony comes with 2 rechargable batteries (2100) and a
    charger it is a lower total cost of ownership.
    I wont need more than 256MB of memory unless it is really cheap to
    upgrade to 512MB (ie another $30 or so).

    thanks
     
    daniel d, Dec 25, 2003
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  7. daniel d

    daniel d Guest

    How long do standard AA batteries last?
    I would be surprised if they lasted half as long as decent
    recharables.
    Decent AA batteries are around $2.50 each thats $10 per cycle,
    depending on how long I use this camera for it may not be worth using
    these types of batteries.
     
    daniel d, Dec 25, 2003
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  8. daniel d

    Miro Guest

    Batteries are much cheaper than memory modules at Sony.
     
    Miro, Dec 25, 2003
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  9. daniel d

    Miro Guest

    If you just shoot and review the images when you get home, the camera will
    last all day. If you shoot and review then you have no hope of making any
    camera useful.
     
    Miro, Dec 25, 2003
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  10. daniel d

    Gary B Guest

    Just the batteries. The charger was around $70 for one of the "smart" ones
    (from Dick Smith).

    I haven't taken accurate measures of how long the batteries last. I'd say
    they last 200-300 photographs taken in the course of a day or two. As Miro
    says, if you are continually reviewing your images then the life drops.
    Same for heavy flash usage and also lots of zooming.

    An advantage in having 2 (or more) sets of batteries is that you can be
    recharging one set whilst using another. An alternative is to buy a set of
    Lithium batteries (long shelf life, but not rechargeable) and use them as a
    back-up set. Total cost probably about the same.

    Regards, Gary
     
    Gary B, Dec 25, 2003
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  11. daniel d

    BB Guest

    Phillip Windsor said the following on 25/12/2003 6:04 PM:
    If you can use standard batteries then it's usually easy to find
    replacements if the rechargeables run out at an inconvenient time.
    If you only have rechargeables, what do you do if the ones in the
    camera go flat and the spares are back at your room being recharged.

    It's also cheap to carry a spare set of AA batteries in your bag in
    case of emergencies.
     
    BB, Jan 1, 2004
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  12. daniel d

    global Guest

    FWIW

    Have you had alook at the Kodak DX6440 4.0 MP 4X optical with the
    "SCHNEIDER-KREUZNACH VARIOGON" lense.

    My brother-in-law just bought one of these last week and couldn't be
    happier.

    He picked one up for $599 + 4 bonus DVD's (not the thing you would
    expect to get with a camera) but it all adds up...I guess.

    If price is a problem, cos' you'd still need to buy a memory card and
    rechargables but you might want to think about possibly spending a
    little more and looking at this camera. For a *point & shoot* camera
    its right up there.

    Good Luck :)

    'Kodak DX6440' (http://tinyurl.com/2jagy)
     
    global, Jan 3, 2004
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