Which Nikon to pick? 80 or 200 ?

Discussion in 'Nikon' started by Billy, Jul 26, 2007.

  1. Billy

    Billy Guest

    I have a D70, and want to upgrade....

    I can get either a D80 or a D200 body, the question is which... the bodies are
    either $1000 or $1600... can I save the $600...

    I have the following lenses... 18-70 / 70-300 / 24 1.8 / 50 1.8 / 28-300

    I shoot things like railway, lake scenery, garden & flowers, interesting
    objects...



    Now, what's the best way to ask this question...


    If it were you, and you were reaching into your camera bag, which features would
    cause you to say - " I'm glad I have a D200 now..."

    or perhaps you'd say... "This D80 is good enough for me because..."

    ??

    Thanks for any comments!
     
    Billy, Jul 26, 2007
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    Rebecca Ore Guest

    ....because I'd like the weather sealing.
    ....because I could buy some older glass that I'd want to be able to
    meter through the lenses of.

    I saved $600 for almost the same feature set and I don't have older
    Nikon lenses.

    (At present, I've got a D50 so I saved even more).
     
    Rebecca Ore, Jul 26, 2007
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  3. Billy

    frederick Guest

    Get a D80, unless you want to shoot those objects at 5 fps, or in the
    rain - though that's not a great idea as only your 18-70 lens has some
    (but not full) weather sealing.
     
    frederick, Jul 26, 2007
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  4. If you don't have any old AI lenses I don't see any reason to get the
    D200. I wrestled with the same question for months and that was the
    bottom line. All the other differences seemed pretty insignificant. I'm
    very happy with the D80 and have enough money left to buy a decent lens.
     
    Psych-O-Delic Voodoo Thunder Pig, Jul 26, 2007
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  5. Billy

    Paul Furman Guest

    The D80 wasn't an option when I broke my D70 & got a 200. The first
    thing I noticed is the bigger brighter viewfinder... great! the D80 has
    that.

    The next thing that I liked was the ability to meter with old manual
    focus lenses and I've made good use of that. You mention a 24mm f/1.8
    but that should be the f/2.8 ...with the D200 you can get affordable old
    manual focus 28mm f/2, 50mm f/1.2 or 300mm f/2.8 etc which I think is
    neat but you might not have the interest or patience for.

    The next major difference (and some might rank this higher) is the 200
    has more manual controls giving quicker access to all sorts of settings.
    A flick of the finger with my eye to the viewfinder & I've locked AF or
    exposure, etc.

    Then comes the sturdier metal body, weather seals and associated bigger
    bulk & weight. I don't mind the weight at all, I like it.. my D70 died
    from a drop while out hiking... I like being able to rumble through the
    brush, salt spray or dust & snap away with confidence.

    Lastly there are all kinds of menu options, most will be pointless to
    most people but I really love the interval timer for time lapse movies
    (saves the need for a laptop & remote control software) and I have used
    things like custom preset white balance. I don't know if the D80 has the
    'recent menu settings' but that's a huge help for me to be 2 clicks away
    from whatever obscure menu settings I've recently changed.
     
    Paul Furman, Jul 26, 2007
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    wso Guest

    I suggest D200.

    And the GPS and the weight issue.


    All of the above plus a GPS issue .
     
    wso, Jul 26, 2007
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  7. Billy

    Billy Guest

    That's interesting, because I have a 1300mm Cassegrain terrestrial scope, and
    metering it would be cool!

    That's another interesting option...
     
    Billy, Jul 26, 2007
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  8. Billy

    Billy Guest

    That's a good point... more glass!!

    Maybe I should list out all of the features and compare... I don't really care
    about white bal and color enhancement and all that crap since I shoot RAW when
    it's important to get a nice shot, and lots of fancy features in the new cams
    are better done in post processing in the computer.
     
    Billy, Jul 26, 2007
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  9. Billy

    Billy Guest

    I don't need GPS, I usually know where I am... :)

    But do you find the weight makes the camera easier to hold steady?
     
    Billy, Jul 26, 2007
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    C J Campbell Guest

    I have a D200. I have to say that I love this camera. Although it is
    much heavier than the D70, it goes with me everywhere. I like the
    layout of the controls, the menu system, everything. I can go out on a
    rainy day in Juneau and take pictures. Or I can shoot the flooding and
    torrential rain of a category 5 supertyphoon. I take it with me to the
    snows of Hurricane Ridge and to the tropical jungles of Southeast Asia.
    I carry it with me when I am teaching flying lessons.

    It is a tough camera. You can almost pound tent stakes with it (if I
    had a D2x I *could* pound tent stakes with it).

    I like the way the Creative Lighting System works.

    The camera is stable enough that if I want to shoot handheld at 1/8
    second I can do it.

    Okay, I wish I had the little remote control that worked with the D70.
    But the wireless remote for the D200 works just fine.

    I have become so accustomed to the build and features of the D200 that
    the D70 seems almost a toy by comparison.
     
    C J Campbell, Jul 26, 2007
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    DoN. Nichols Guest

    [ ... ]
    Well ... with just that list of lenses I would have to go for
    the other features of the D200 -- but for *me* -- I have some excellent
    older AI lenses, and the D200 would meter with them without needing a
    CPU chip transplanted into the lens. (And all of my remaining lenses
    which I *want* to use don't have room for the CPU conversion.
    If the D200 had been around when I got my D70, I would have
    gotten it -- even with the price difference.

    To me -- the only benefit that the D80 has over the D70 is the
    larger megapixel count -- and I really think that I would probably not
    use it at the higher count much of the time anyway.

    Enjoy,
    DoN.
     
    DoN. Nichols, Jul 26, 2007
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  12. I went with the D80 and saved more than enough to get a 70-300VR lens
    (with a good Hota CP).
     
    Oliver Costich, Jul 26, 2007
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  13. Billy

    Tony Polson Guest


    Two reasons to buy the D200:

    1) If you need to meter with manual focus Nikkors, buy the D200. They
    will mount on the D80 but the D80's meter will not operate (but you
    can expose manually with a separate light meter or trial and error).

    2) If you need a weatherproof camera body, buy the D200.

    Otherwise, the D80 is the one to choose. If your lenses were all
    AF-S, I would also consider the D40X.

    If you can wait until October, the successor to the D200 is due to be
    announced, and should ship before Christmas. My guess is that it will
    offer 12.8 MP in a DX size sensor, and will be priced about the same
    as the D200 is now.
     
    Tony Polson, Jul 26, 2007
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  14. Only thing I can add on top of everyone elses comments is.....
    D80 uses SD cards
    D200 uses the same CF as your D70

    Doc
     
    Dr Hfuhruhurr, Jul 26, 2007
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  15. Billy

    Matt Clara Guest

    Or with mirror lock up, which can make all the difference in the world--for
    the right exposures, of course. Or if you have a slew of older nikkors, or
    for a bunch of little custom options, or...what's up frederick, you usually
    give good advice? I chose the D200 after shooting with a D70 at work for
    three years. The D200 is a significant improvement. And, personally,
    frames per second has never been a concern for me.
     
    Matt Clara, Jul 26, 2007
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  16. Billy

    Paul Furman Guest

    Won't it be the D2x that gets replaced first?
     
    Paul Furman, Jul 26, 2007
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  17. Billy

    Tony Polson Guest


    I don't know. I haven't had much information about new Nikon models.
    That's why I used the word "guess".

    I am better informed about Canon's next moves, but they appear to be
    waiting for Nikon to announce first!
     
    Tony Polson, Jul 26, 2007
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  18. Billy

    Guest Guest

    so far, the most credible rumour is two nikon cameras will be announced
    in mid to late august.
    it's not like canon can redesign anything in a few weeks.
     
    Guest, Jul 26, 2007
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  19. Oh yes, they can: adjusting the marketing material doesn't take that long.
    Unfortunately in today's world that is more important than the actual
    product.

    jue
     
    Jürgen Exner, Jul 26, 2007
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    RichA Guest

    And interesting way of looking at it. You save $500 or so going with
    the D80, but pay way more for lenses later on because of the D80's
    incompatibility with older Nikkors. Since older Nikkors command
    pretty high used prices, it's obvious they are still desirable and
    serviceable.
     
    RichA, Jul 26, 2007
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