Why does the D200 have a QUAL button?

Discussion in 'Digital SLR' started by Roy Smith, Jun 6, 2006.

  1. Roy Smith

    Roy Smith Guest

    I've had my D200 for under a week now, and I'm just learning how it works.
    I can see why you would want ISO and WB buttons in a convenient place
    because those are things that seem like you would be changing whenever the
    lighting changes, which could be almost every shot.

    But, I don't see why QUAL is up there too. I would guess you'd pick a QUAL
    setting and leave it there for a whole shooting session. Do people really
    change QUAL settings for each specific shot? I could see leaving it on
    "L/fine" and probably never touching it again unless I was running out of
    room on my memory card and didn't have a spare with me.
     
    Roy Smith, Jun 6, 2006
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    tomm42 Guest

    I switch between RAW and jpeg depending on the situation. I think it is
    very nice to have outside the menu.

    Tom
     
    tomm42, Jun 6, 2006
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    acl Guest

    I'd much prefer it if it allowed you to switch between shooting banks or
    custom settings banks, perhaps by pressing it and rotating the front or
    back dial. You could also change quality settings as a special case then.
     
    acl, Jun 6, 2006
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  4. You might want to be firing off rapid multiple exposures and not want to
    fill the buffer. If you have been shooting raw and quickly want to swich to
    jpg then you would not want to go into a menu!
     
    Adrian Boliston, Jun 6, 2006
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    Jeremy Nixon Guest

    There are dozens of things that button could better have been used for.
    It makes absolutely no sense to have a dedicated button for that; I have
    never changed that setting and never will, and yet there are things I
    must go into the menu for on a regular basis.
     
    Jeremy Nixon, Jun 6, 2006
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    DoN. Nichols Guest

    On my D70, I currently keep it set to Large/Fine for most
    things, but for a subject which might benefit from the extended
    processing ability of RAW I will switch to RAW mode for that one shot or
    group of shots. (I used to keep it on Medium/Fine back when all I had
    was two 1GB CF cards, but now that I have added a 4GB one to the
    collection, I've switched to the Large/Fine.

    And -- if I want to take a lot of shots to document some event,
    but I won't need the extended processing capabilities of RAW images, or
    the higher detail of "Large", I may drop back to "Medium", though I will
    usually keep "Fine". I can't picture any sequence where I would drop back
    to "Basic" -- though if the D70 had the intervalometer that the D200
    has, I might some year set up looking out the bathroom window at some
    trees, to capture the sequence of the buds opening to big fans of
    leaves. I *think* that 5 minutes between shots should be sufficient,
    but perhaps I might need to go down to 1 minute between shots.

    5 minutes between shots works out to 288 shots in 24 hours, and
    It would take perhaps a couple of weeks of exposures to cover the whole
    sequence, so that is 4032 shots. Normal/Medium gets me there on a 4GB CF
    card -- just barely. So does Large/Basic

    And while you can select these from the menus, it is a *lot*
    quicker to make the choices from a single button and both thumbwheels.

    I would like to have the ability to switch between (pre-created)
    folders from the buttons and thumbwheels too -- but the top display
    can't show the names of all the possible folders, so I guess that I am
    stuck with the menus for that.

    Enjoy,
    DoN.
     
    DoN. Nichols, Jun 6, 2006
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  7. This already exists, there are 4 "shooting banks" and 4 "custom setting
    banks" already. Which one is active is constantly displayed on the top
    LCD (the shooting banks are called A, B, C and D, and so are the custom
    setting ones...). One could set up shooting bank A for RAW, B for jpeg
    portraits, C for jpeg landscapes etc. The QUAL button could have
    allowed selection of a custom setting bank with the front dial and a
    shooting bank with the rear, say. As a special case, it could do the
    job it does now if properly set up.

    I don't understand why it's set up like this.
     
    achilleaslazarides, Jun 6, 2006
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  8. I agree that this would be nice. I primarily shoot RAW so having the button
    on the outside is a waste. I guess Nikon couldn't think of any other
    function to put on that button. It doesn't bother me, though, and I never
    thought about it.







    Rita
     
    Rita Ä Berkowitz, Jun 6, 2006
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    Randy Howard Guest

    Roy Smith wrote
    Just as you wonder that, I wonder why anyone would ever shoot
    anything other than RAW with a D200. :)

    I guess Nikon caters to everyone on their digital bodies
    nowadays.
     
    Randy Howard, Jun 7, 2006
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    Bill Guest

    Something I've noticed with the D70s that my friend has, is the
    Large/Fine jpg files do not capture as much detail as the raw files.
    We've tried adjusting contrast, sharpness, etc., to try to improve
    detail retention, but the jpg format Nikon implemented just loses too
    much detail.

    For snapshots the jpg quality is fine, but if you want to enlarge and
    retain fine detail, you have to shoot raw.

    That may not be a bad thing though. For typical family shots, parties,
    and other social gatherings, jpg files from the D70s are fine. But if
    you're on a trip to the Grand Canyon or something, then shooting raw
    will retain finer detail just in case you need it.

    My Canon on the other hand produces very good jpg files straight out of
    the camera - they're as good as raw converted to jpg. And for that
    reason I rarely shoot raw unless I intend to manipulate the images.
     
    Bill, Jun 7, 2006
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    Nick Beard Guest

    Whatever anyone does, their damned if they do, and damned if they dont! Just
    use the tool to do the job and quit nit-picking!!
     
    Nick Beard, Jun 7, 2006
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    Randy Howard Guest

    Nick Beard wrote
    Please don't top-post.

    Perhaps that is why you fail to fully comprehend the emoticon
    below.
     
    Randy Howard, Jun 8, 2006
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    Paul Furman Guest

    This seems a good reason, like for sports or wildlife. The main reason I
    shoot jpeg is if I want long bursts & I might need that suddenly as a
    situation presents itself.
     
    Paul Furman, Jun 9, 2006
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    Nick Beard Guest

    Whatever Dude!!!!
     
    Nick Beard, Jun 11, 2006
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