Why isn't there much talk on the Olympus EVOLT E-510

Discussion in 'Olympus' started by Juarez, Sep 13, 2007.

  1. Juarez

    dj_nme Guest

    I am well informed, without that extra doohickey the OM lenses are just
    shelf decoration in your den or shed (unless you've bought a Canon DSLR
    and a mount adapter during the fifteen wait between Olympus SLR cameras).
    Also, OM lenses cannot be used natively on 4/3 cameras and none of auto
    functions work.
    Not even with the the latest of the OM lenses.
    Abandonning your customer base is a good way of having to start form
    scratch again and in the fifteen year gap, Olympus would have lost
    customers to Pentax, Nikon and Canon.
    Attempting to claim anything else just makes you seem pretty darn silly
    and that you're in severe denial.
     
    dj_nme, Sep 17, 2007
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  2. Juarez

    SMS Guest

    All true, but I don't think Olympus ever had their film SLR customer
    base as a consideration in their plans. It's a new market. If 4:3 had
    taken off then they would have been in a great position, but 4:3 is just
    not practical as resolution moves up due to sensor noise. You also have
    the problem of how difficult it is to make wide angle lenses for such a
    small sensor.
     
    SMS, Sep 17, 2007
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  3. Juarez

    SMS Guest

    That may be a good rationalization for now. But the world is moving to
    full frame and with full frame comes the ability to increase the
    resolution over the smaller sensors, without increasing noise. We'll
    soon be up to film in quality, even on consumer cameras.

    It'll be interesting to see if Olympus decides to play in the larger
    marketplace.
     
    SMS, Sep 17, 2007
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  4. Juarez

    Alan Hoyle Guest

    And another price: $$$$! The least expensive FF sensor body, the
    Canon 5d, is what, $2500, body only? With that kind of money, one
    could buy the aforementioned Olympus E-510 with a 2 lens kit, and a
    couple of the upgraded lenses.

    Not that I don't see the advantages of bigger sensors in many
    applications, but smaller sensors are "good enough" for many purposes.

    -alan
     
    Alan Hoyle, Sep 17, 2007
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  5. Juarez

    SMS Guest

    Yes, at this point in time full frame is quite expensive. The most
    logical course for time being is to buy into a system that at least
    offers an upgrade path when full frame sensors and bodies come down in
    price. Nikon and Canon offer such systems. However you must be careful
    to buy lenses that work with the regular lens mount, not the special
    lenses such as the EF-s lenses. Actually the Nikon and Canon lenses have
    extremely good resale value, so it's not like you're out a tremendous
    amount of money if you upgrade to a full frame body and have to sell a
    couple of EF-s lenses.
     
    SMS, Sep 17, 2007
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  6. Juarez

    dj_nme Guest

    I see that abandonning an existing user base is bad for customer loyalty.
    How do you really know if Olympus won't dump on you again in the near
    future and waste all your money which you spent buying lenses to find
    that they don't work (without an adapter) on the latest and greatest body?
    You forgot to include Sigma and Pentax.
    All four have capitalised on their existing user base which already had
    lenses (and other accessories) for their film SLR cameras and now are
    just as useful on the digital bodies made by these same companies.
     
    dj_nme, Sep 18, 2007
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  7. Juarez

    SMS Guest

    Also realize that the Canon and Nikon designs give you the best of both
    worlds, even in the sub-full-frame models. You can buy lenses that are
    designed for the smaller sensor, or you can use your existing lenses
    with the correction for the crop factor.

    For telephoto, you get all those wonderful Canon BWLs (big white
    lenses). At this point someone will start up about the cost of the BWLs,
    but in reality it's less of an issue than you might think. I was at my
    kid's softball tournament, wistfully looking at someone with a Canon
    BWL, and when I approached him, expecting it to be attached to a
    professional body, I was shocked to see it on a EOS Digital Rebel
    (300D). I talked to him, and it turned out that he had rented the lens
    for $25 for 24 hours from the local camera store (Keeble and Shuchat
    (Palo Alto, CA)). It's great to be able to rent a specialty lens for the
    rare times that you need it, but it actually has to exist, and it has to
    be an item in demand enough for the store to rent it.

    It's really important to look at the big picture prior to selection a
    system, since changing systems is so expensive. Look at not only the
    body, but the available lenses in each quality segment, the available
    accessories, the upgrade path to better bodies, etc. As I said earlier,
    the E-510 is a good value for the money. But Olympus has done poorly in
    the D-SLR market precisely because so many people in the market for a
    D-SLR do a lot of research prior to the purchase, and do look at the
    long term.
     
    SMS, Sep 18, 2007
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  8. Juarez

    dj_nme Guest

    Only if you're expecting to capture a nice image of the scenery and not
    worried by the blurry moving things; like people, animals and vehicles.
    Long exposures are really great for capturing sharp images of still
    objects, just don't count on mobile things to stay still just for you to
    take sharp still pictures of them.
     
    dj_nme, Sep 18, 2007
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  9. Renting the high-end stuff can be a really good way to make purchasing
    decisions too. I rented a Nikon 17-35, a 105 Micro VR and an 18-200 VR
    while making up my mind about buying new stuff. In the end, I bought
    none of those, selecting the non-VR 105 Micro, the 12-24 and the 70-300
    VR instead. I'm much happier with the choices knowing I tried the
    pro-grade glass and determined that the three less expensive lenses had
    all the quality I need for my (non-professional) use!
     
    sheepdog 2007, Sep 19, 2007
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  10. Juarez

    SMS Guest

    Oh, now it's perfectly clear why you're okay with the 4:3 system and
    EVolt cameras. You should have mentioned this in the beginning.
     
    SMS, Sep 19, 2007
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