Wide Angle Lens Recommendation

Discussion in '35mm Cameras' started by Eric Miller, Jul 29, 2009.

  1. Eric Miller

    Eric Miller Guest

    Before I purchased my Canon 5D, I was using a 10D. My wide angle lens was a
    Sigma 15-30mm and I was reasonably satisfied. After the 5D purchase, I sold
    the 10D and the Sigma. Now, I find myself needing a wide angle lens for
    shooting home interiors and am looking for some recommendations. I have a
    Canon EF 24mm f/2.8 but it's not really wide enough for that purpose, though
    I'm happy with it for landscapes.

    My budget is about $250, but I would go to $350 if necessary. I will be
    using the home interior shots for the web only so I don't need the best,
    brightest or sharpest lens out there. I also don't want utter junk. It would
    be nice to also be able to play with it for other purposes. I think I can
    get another Sigma 15-30, but may have to wait a while to find one at that
    price on eBay, so I'm asking for recommendations.

    TIA

    Eric Miller
    www.dyesscreek.com
     
    Eric Miller, Jul 29, 2009
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    J. Clarke Guest

    There's not really a lot available in that price range new in the focal
    lengths you're looking for--have you considered the 17-35 Tamron? Doesn't
    go as wide as the Sigma and I can't speak for the build quality but
    according to photozone.de it's on a par optically with the Sigma.

    Note that keh.com has a couple of 15-30 Sigmas in your price range.
     
    J. Clarke, Jul 29, 2009
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    Eric Miller Guest

    Not a bad idea, but I'd really like to spend less time post processing and
    less time for the shoot. I have been looking at getting a pano head anyway
    though, any recommendations?

    Eric Miller
    www.dyesscreek.com
     
    Eric Miller, Jul 29, 2009
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    Eric Miller Guest

    Thanks for the head's up, I should have known to check keh first. And 17
    should be plenty wide enough, I'll look at one of those too.

    Eric Miller
    www.dyesscreek.com
     
    Eric Miller, Jul 29, 2009
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    Paul Furman Guest

    Non-Ai 20mm f/3.5 Nikkor-UD if you can find one. That's an old lens,
    introduced in 1967.

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    Paul Furman, Jul 29, 2009
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    Eric Miller Guest

    Then I would have to purchase some sort of adapter.

    Eric Miller
    www.dyesscreek.com
     
    Eric Miller, Jul 29, 2009
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    J. Clarke Guest

    If 20mm will do keh.com has a couple of 20mm Canons for real cheap.
     
    J. Clarke, Jul 29, 2009
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    Robert Coe Guest

    : Eric Miller wrote:
    :
    : > Before I purchased my Canon 5D, I was using a 10D. My wide angle lens
    : > was a Sigma 15-30mm and I was reasonably satisfied. After the 5D
    : > purchase, I sold the 10D and the Sigma. Now, I find myself needing a
    : > wide angle lens for shooting home interiors and am looking for some
    : > recommendations. I have a Canon EF 24mm f/2.8 but it's not really
    : > wide enough for that purpose, though I'm happy with it for landscapes.
    :
    : My recommendation would be for the 17-35/2.8 Nikkor and an adapter ring.
    : When I was shooting my 17-35/2.8 on the old 1D Mk III it really was nice.
    : Well worth the money. Theres's nothing wrong with going over budget for
    : this level of quality. Good luck.

    Well spoken, Rita. But then you're not the one who has to go to debtor's
    prison if he overextends and can't pay. Maybe you actually did own a 1D3 for
    your usual 18 months, but not all of us are so flush. It may be seen as heresy
    in this newsgroup, but I think it's a *good* thing when someone figures out
    what he can afford to pay and then looks for the best buy available for that
    amount. The world would be better off if more *governments* behaved that way.

    Bob
     
    Robert Coe, Jul 30, 2009
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    Paul Furman Guest

    That's about 13mm (APS equivalent) to the 15mm he's accustomed to.
    Manual focus is a bitch for wide angle so if there's a decent AF Canon
    for the budget, that would be nice. I only know Nikon. Stop down
    metering would be a drag.

    The one I suggested was just a quickly researched educated guess at
    something in-budget with a decent reputation. Pretty minimal distortion,
    etc. The adapter could be cheap for an old lens like that.

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    Paul Furman, Jul 30, 2009
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    Eric Miller Guest

    I thank everyone for their prior responses. I will likely just purchase
    another Sigma 15-30mm, but before I do that, I did want to ask about one
    other possibility. I see that there is a Russian made Zinitar 16mm full
    frame fisheye lens available for relative little that is supposed to have
    acceptable image quality according to reviews. After all, I will only be
    using this for the web so it doesn't have to be even near tack sharp. What
    sort of quality can I expect out of a combination of this fisheye lens and
    software distortion correction with PTLens or some similar software? I
    really a cheapskate at heart, and if I can get by for $150 or so, I'll do
    it.

    Eric Miller
    www.dyesscreek.com
     
    Eric Miller, Jul 31, 2009
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    Eric Miller Guest

    Believe me, that was my first choice.
    I saw a tutorial on making one out of aluminum. On my long list of projects
    that I never have time to get to is to make a pano head out of wood.
    I haven't had time to shoot any this year. I will probably take a day off
    during the heavy migration and shoot some more. I really need to get a
    better shot for my hot sauce label.

    http://www.colibrihotsauce.com

    In the one that I use now, the background is green which makes it very
    difficult to change the background to the black on the bottle without making
    the wings look odd.

    Eric Miller
    www.dyesscreek.com
     
    Eric Miller, Jul 31, 2009
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    Paul Furman Guest

    Is that somewhat usable on FX? For web shots I guess you could crop.

    The problem is you can't really compose the shot.

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    Bruce Guest


    If you get a good example, it is a suprisingly good lens. But there
    are some poor examples around. Not many, but there is a chance that
    one bought used on eBay may fit into that category.

    So make sure the seller has a returns policy, and that you test the
    lens thoroughly as soon as you receive it, in case you need to return
    it.

    There are also old Sigma 16mm fisheyes, and they are consistently
    good. They don't often come up on eBay but when they do, they sell
    for reasonable prices.

    Watch out for front element damage with both the Zenitar and Sigma
    lenses - of necessity (for the 180 degree coverage) they both have
    protruding front elements that are easily scratched.
     
    Bruce, Jul 31, 2009
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    Me Guest

    I made one out of wood, angles reinforced/braced with some aluminium
    bar. It works fine.
    Mine has two quick-release tripod fittings, so can flip from vertical to
    horizontal easily. It (and the "panosauraus") aren't really stable
    enough for camera shake, but perfectly adequate for positional accuracy.
    I also made a swinging cradle system to try, so that point of rotation
    could be fixed on lens entry pupil position in the vertical position,
    but for most situations then the parallax problem between adjacent
    vertical frames isn't an issue - I never use it. If you were doing
    massive resolution stitches, or something out of the norm, then it might.
    "Nodal point" isn't quite the right term - see "lens entry pupil".
    There are some databases fpor various lenses on the internet, but it's
    very easy to measure with sufficient accuracy, using two vertical wires
    or toothpicks set up at ends of a tabletop or whatever, especially easy
    with a camera with liveview LCD and a magnified view. As well as
    recording distance from film plane to determined entrance pupil, it's
    easy just to mark the panoramic head with a felt tip pen, with note
    about lens, and especially focal length if a zoom is used.
     
    Me, Aug 2, 2009
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