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Discussion in '35mm Cameras' started by Frank, Dec 28, 2009.

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    Peter Guest

    If your bartender wants to smoke while working, let him go into a business
    that is not open to the public.
    Peter, Jan 4, 2010
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    Peter Guest

    How dare you lecture on social responsibility. Someone who says they will do
    as they want, is a selfish person with no regard for his fellow human
    beings. As to doctors, last time I looked I have the right to refuse any
    medical treatment.
    You say you make choices that don't harm anybody. That' pure bullshit. any
    example you give of no harm to others is based upon selective snippets, out
    of context.
    Your bad choices affect other members of society. If you want the right to
    do as you want, become a hermit in the jungle, or some other place where at
    least your dead body would serve the useful purpose of providing food for
    another species.
    Peter, Jan 4, 2010
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    Peter Guest

    Me too. When you resort to name calling and labeling you are showing the
    weakness of your argument.

    You might want to check:

    It also seems you never heard of denatured alcohol, usually available in
    Peter, Jan 4, 2010
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    Peter Guest

    the sad thing is that you may actually believe that.
    Peter, Jan 4, 2010
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    NameHere Guest

    It's a bit like HIV. Since you don't know who is packing and carrying that
    little surprise (even the carrier doesn't, that's how it spreads), then you
    have to treat everyone as if they have are armed with a deadly weapon. So
    either protect yourself, be responsible for your own choices and actions in
    life, or don't dick around with anyone until you do protect yourself. So
    simple. Self responsibility.

    Concealed weapons laws are designed to confuse the criminal. Luckily I live
    where there are no ordinances whatsoever, as well as a state that hands out
    concealed-weapon licenses like candy. I can even have automatic weapons if
    I want. I found out when I called the sheriff one time to ask him about the
    jehova-witnesses north of me that were practicing with, and stock-piling,
    automatic weapons. (They have that paranoid "end of the world" thing going
    on, just like all christians do and are ready to snap at any moment, just
    like all christian psychotics.) As long as I found out it was legally okay
    for them to have automatic weapons it was quite okay all around. Because
    then it was okay for me too. Since they found out I have the same right
    they no longer knock on my door to bother me to try to change my mind to
    their psychotic beliefs. I had a friend come over with a few of his own
    automatic weapons to practice on my land this summer, just to let the
    psychotic christians know they aren't the only ones so armed. See how nice
    that works?

    "It's a peaceful day in the neighborhood! A peaceful day in the
    neighborhood! Won't you be mine? Won't you be mine? Won't you BEEEEE ....
    my target!"
    NameHere, Jan 4, 2010
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    NameHere Guest

    Here's what YOU don't get as a "humanitarian". I would rather DIE than let
    something like you force your beliefs on me.

    Got it?

    Christians wanted to save the souls of the people on 3 continents. Now
    those cultures are extinct, at "humanitarian" christian hands.

    ****, are you ever an idiot.
    NameHere, Jan 4, 2010
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    Peter Guest

    If you follow through you might even win a Darwin award.
    Now let's see which of my beliefs, very few of which you know, would cause
    that effect.
    Peter, Jan 4, 2010
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    NameHere Guest

    Not likely. I also believe in the right to bear arms, of any power. You and
    your kind would be the very first to go. Now who is going to subject
    themselves to Darwinism?


    "Live free or DIE!"

    I guess that doesn't mean much to a pathetic control-freak moron like you,
    until you are faced with your own demise. Hopefully you'll learn that
    lesson ... soon enough.
    NameHere, Jan 4, 2010
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    Peter Guest

    Is that a threat?
    Peter, Jan 4, 2010
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    NameHere Guest

    LOL!!! You read New Hampshire's "State Motto" as a threat? Damn, are you
    ever ignorant to what freedom means. Why don't you go and try to
    reconstruct the U.S.S.R. or something. Your kind would be more than
    welcomed there.

    NameHere, Jan 4, 2010
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    Ray Fischer Guest

    Fascists hate liberalism.
    Ray Fischer, Jan 4, 2010
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    Ray Fischer Guest

    Fascists hate liberals like Thomas Jefferson.
    Ray Fischer, Jan 4, 2010
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    tony cooper Guest

    A discriminatory tax taxes only certain users. Cigarette and liquor
    taxes are paid by *everyone* who uses those products, and taxes them

    I do smoke and I do purchase liquor, albeit very moderately.
    I skip most of your posts. You rarely have anything interesting to
    add on any subject that interests me. I sample a post of yours here
    and there, and invariably find that you are illogical, uninformed, and
    tony cooper, Jan 4, 2010
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    tony cooper Guest

    Yes, and gasoline taxes pay for the government's costs in building and
    maintaining roads.
    They don't.
    tony cooper, Jan 4, 2010
  15. My friend, the gut of the bill is to exert federal government control. In
    New York, insurance companies are already prohibited from not covering
    pre-existing condiditons. This bill is only a first step towards the
    single-payer system that the president himself says he in favor of. Did you
    know that there is a provison in the bill that prohibits the Congress from
    amending portions of the bill? We can amend our Constititution but we can't
    amend the health care bill once it is passed?

    Once can only hope that someone will challenge the bill on the
    constitutionality of requiring every citizen to purchase health care
    insurance. It's like a tax on living. For those who will respond that this
    is no different than requiring auto insurance in order to drvie, there is no
    comparison. Driving is a privelege extended to a citizen or legal alien.
    Living is a right, not a privelege extended to us by our governement but
    sometimes I wonder.
    Pete Stavrakoglou, Jan 4, 2010
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    Walter Banks Guest

    The real moral dilemma is when an uninsured person gets sick or
    injured society is unable or unwilling to say you can't afford to
    pay for medical care sorry.

    Once the point has been reached where care will be provided
    to the sick or injured the rules change. Deciding that health care
    will be provided partly decides that it should be paid for by all.
    In the Canadian case it is an employer paid tax on earned

    There are implications to this approach. Unemployed don't
    pay for health care. Seniors and retired people are not taxed
    for health care on investment income. Premium care basically
    is the difference between a private room and not. The general
    care is very good and is available.

    Walter Banks, Jan 4, 2010
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    Peter Guest

    Taxes also pay the cost of raising the 2 year old you blithely dismiss.
    Peter, Jan 5, 2010
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    Peter Guest

    Not morality. Non-interference with my rights. Selling booze is a privilege,
    not a right. Breathing clean air is a right, not a privilege.
    Peter, Jan 5, 2010
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    Peter Guest

    First: I want to wish you and your family a happy and healthy new year.
    Next. I agree that the so called non-amendment clause would be invalid, if
    it meant that at no time in the future could the bill be amended. I
    certainly would not dwell on that issue.
    I doubt that any rational person thinks some reformation of our health care
    system is not needed. I think there is something radically wrong when a
    persons life savings can be wiped out if they get sick. there is something
    radically wrong when I can purchase prescription drugs in Canada for less
    than my insurance co-pay. (Sadly that is not addressed in any version of
    this bill.)
    There is something radically wrong when doctors are forced to practice
    defensive medicine.
    There is something radically wrong when Medicare payments limit the annual
    amount of rehabilitation in an out patient facility, regardless of medical
    need and regardless of whether the rehab is required as a result of
    different incidents.
    there is something insane where insurance companies won't cover needed
    diagnostic procedures, but would rather let you get sicker, until they have
    to pay more for the cure.
    Should insurance companies or medical professionals dictate our medication
    and the type of medical care we receive.

    I agree that neither the House nor Senate bills are anyplace near perfect.
    but the basic concept of universal health coverage is important. Look at the
    facts in other countries. We spend more and receive less value than the vast
    majority of third world countries.
    My biggest beef with both bills is that neither addresses price negotiation
    or abusive practice law suits.

    BTW it is not true that neither bill can be amended. What you are referring
    to is that there is a prohibitation against tacking on a pork package to the
    Peter, Jan 5, 2010
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    tony cooper Guest

    Your reading comprehension and retention is on par with your logic.
    I've been pointing out your illogical premises all during the year.
    tony cooper, Jan 5, 2010
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