Will printers accept PDF files for *EVERY* type of project?

Discussion in 'Photoshop' started by Adam, Jan 22, 2009.

  1. Adam

    Adam Guest

    I touched on this accidentally in another thread, but just wanted it
    confirmed (and invite whatever Devil's advocates might be out there to chime
    in and challenge the notion).

    The notion is : Can PDF files be used to produce EVERY type of graphic
    project imaginable?

    We're talking numeric, but also (and more importantly) FLEXOGRAPHY, as well
    as SILKSCREENING (aka, serigraphy).

    Booths, product packaging, outdoor signage, lamination guides... EVERYTHING.

    Printers can all accept a single PDF file to handle ANY of these things?

    I've been using HIGH QUALITY PRINT for most numeric jobs. Would that preset
    work for ALL of the above, including silkscreening? Or are there specific
    settings I need to pay attention to for specific types of print jobs?

    Thanks.
     
    Adam, Jan 22, 2009
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  2. Adam

    steggy Guest

    Adam schreef:

    Yes and sigh.
    As long as the original is OK. Please google on Creating PDF's or
    whatever. Essentially PDF's do all what you want.

    Assuming you work in Adobe. You will find pre-sets. Talk with your
    printer. He/she may have other pre-sets. He/she will mail them. But the
    regular Hi Res PDF like I gave you yesterday works out fine.

    Not sure what you mean with "numeric". But Flexograph and Silk Screen is
    really no problem. The printer deals with that, sending it to the plate.
    Then again, is your printer up to date.
     
    steggy, Jan 22, 2009
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  3. Adam

    Adam Guest

    Thing is, the printer we deal with is one of the biggest ones in town, and
    he wants nothing to do with PDFs for anything but numeric printing (stuff
    that doesn't require creating plates).

    Now I know what YOUR experience and opinion on this subject are, you've been
    very candid and helpful on that front... but I started this thread to find
    out just how universal your position on the subject is. I can't do that if
    you're going to be the only one replying to the thread. :)
     
    Adam, Jan 23, 2009
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  4. We print college textbooks -- four color, four-hundred or more pages
    -- and submit nothing BUT PDF files. Haven't for many years. And as
    far as moving outside paper printing, as has been said, the PDF
    generates/rasterizes from the original application, and doesn't run
    into problems that i know of. I've had a lot of experience with the
    application in commercial environments, too. I wrote a book in 1986
    about using PDF as a common workflow format. It's working now -- we
    weren't sure way back then. But that should give you an idea of how
    'up to date' your local printer actually is.

    Get a new printer and move to PDF workflows. They work, and they work
    perfectly. Something that MIGHT be happening at your printer is that
    he/she's having RIP problems. I have had font problems coming out of
    CS3 and CS4 InDesign-generated files being output on a Fiery RIP. On
    CREO rips, we've never had problems with PDF files -- even font
    problems, which are the ones you're most likely to run into with PDF
    workflows.

    gary in florida
     
    Self-meditating in Tampa, Florida USA, Jan 23, 2009
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  5. Adam

    Dave Guest

    Could you explain "numeric" printing again? You must be referring to
    "digital" printing?

    Most modern up to date printing companies will accept PDF files for
    most projects provided they are created properly. However, of course
    any company can create and enforce any parameters they want to. If you
    want to use any particular company it's best to follow whatever
    guidelines they give you, regardless of what the rest of the industry
    is doing. If said guidelines are not acceptable to you maybe look for
    another printer...

    That being said, it has been my experience in both sending and
    receiving files that printers will sometimes create individual "rules"
    for each customer. What I mean is, if a customer consistently provides
    problem PDFs the prepress department might inexplicably(from the
    customer's perspective) start enforcing the "rule" that all files
    submitted must be native(not PDF). Prepress tends to be impatient...
     
    Dave, Jan 23, 2009
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  6. Adam

    Dave Guest

    Idiot..! Why do you address a normal human as a God-man?
    Not worth reading anything more from your idiotic on-your-knees
    attitude when talking to a normal human being:-(
     
    Dave, Jan 25, 2009
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  7. Adam

    Dave Guest


    No John, it was about the use of God's Name..!
    Unless he meant to say 'good man'.
    But then should have used his spelling facility.
     
    Dave, Jan 25, 2009
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  8. Adam

    Gemini Guest

    PDF = Portable Document Format ...from the inventors of Postscript, the page
    description language that revolutionized the printing industry and is
    responsible for today's ease of producing printing plates and direct
    computer to press printing.

    God man, *ANY* printer who won't accept PDF files is working in the dark
    ages of making plates by taking photographs of artwork and developing a film
    they print the plates from. Historic stuff and hugely costly.

    Just don't expect to make a PDF with black text in it with Photoshop and
    have your printer jump for joy. Composite black is a mess at the best of
    times. From an amateur's attempt, it's bound to give problems.

    G
     
    Gemini, Jan 26, 2009
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  9. Adam

    Gemini Guest

    A bit ambitious calling yourself normal, isn't it?
     
    Gemini, Jan 26, 2009
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  10. Adam

    Gemini Guest

    No. I used the expletive "GOD" (of which I've noted there are at least 900
    figures from mythology called "GOD"). I could just as easily said "Shit
    man", any... but chose to use the word God.

    If you are so touchy about your version of religion as opposed to the
    Samoan's version of GOD that you take offense at the use of a three letter
    word uses as an expletive... Maybe you'd be more comfortable with four
    letter words?

    G
     
    Gemini, Jan 26, 2009
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