Woah Canon Announces 10D Mk II for 999, Drebel pricedrop 499

www.canoneos.com/PMA/10dmk2.html


Same 1.3x sensor as on the 1D Mk II and DIGIC II

 

Thanks!

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http://web.canon.jp/Imaging/eos1dm2/index.html

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Colm


: Haven't seen anything on that yet. DPreview has information on the new 1D Mk
: II however, 8 meg camera with all the whistles and bells.

 

A 1.3x sized sensor? So you have just spent a bucketload on glass to match the
1.6x multiplier of the 10D and the upgrade effectively changes your entire lens
outfit into something different?

That 50mm f1.8 that worked as a 80mm on a 10D which everyone raves about
suddenly becomes a 65mm lens (i.e. just about useless).

This is why its a good idea to decide on a senor size and to stick to it as
Olympus have done with 4/3 and Nikon appear to have done with their 1.5x
multiplier.

For that reason I can't see a 1.3x sensor giing into a 10D Mk II.

Canon should stick to full frame at the top end and 1.6x everywhere else then
users know where they stand on the lens front.

Dave

 

mark 2. I saw something somewhere. that there are extra buttons on the
updated 10d.
It has the same size chip as the mark one.

Could someone please tell me where the info is on the mark 2 what states its
a mark 2.
TIA MikeS

 

Why is that useless? It's a good focal length for portraits.

It's the same size that was in the first 1D, so it's not like it's a new
sensor size for Canon.

Nothing wrong with more choices. 1.3x is a good balance between losing on
the wide end and gaining on the tele end. Besides, it's priced out of the
range of most amateurs.

Mark

 

And you can't crop in Photoshop because?

 

With respect, no it isn't. A portrait lensis traditionally either 85mm or
100/105mm.

65mm is not going to give you the flattering perspective of the short tele
lens.

If 65mm was a "good" focal length for anything they would have been around for
years in full frame 35mm film photography and they are conspicuous by their
absence.

That does not alter the fact standardisation is a good thing.

1.3 might be better than 1.6 but whatever the merits of cropping factors if
they change from one version of the camera to the next that is not a good thing
IMO.

If you set out to buy a dSLR outfit today surely you would look at the lens
options and pick a set of lenses that work as you want with the sensor in the
camera?

So if you had already done that for your 1.6x camera it is going to be a pain
if your carefully chosen lenses are now not working as you once wanted when you
built the outfit if you upgrade the body.

Surely it would be nice to know your lens was going to work the same way on
future Canon bodies as it does now.

Dave

 

That is no argument. If it were all you would only need one lens. The widest
lens going and you could just crop the middle out of the image !!!

Dave

 

Hardly - there's the small matter of not having any pixels left. However, a
crop to a 10D field of view will still give you around 5 million pixels to
play with - more than enough to make a good portrait, and for other stuff
the 65mm equivalent is closer to the 50mm "standard lens" that these lenses
were originally designed as.

You're perfectly free to take the view that reducing the crop factor is a
"bad thing", but I suspect you'll find yourself in the minority. If this
"10D Mk 2" rumour is true, then most people will regard it as a significant
step forward, and the change to the 1.3 factor at the "amateur level" will
have wrong-footed poor Nikon again.

Of course, all we have so far is a dead-link.

 

It doesn't change the "whole outfit" -- just the extremes.

I can't see how approaching full frame (ie., a focal length
multiplier closer to 1) is anything other than a good thing.

The main gripe up to now has been the dearth of true
wide angle lenses to properly cover the smaller sensors.

Anyone designing a lens collection around a 1.6
focal length multiplier is being foolish.


rafe b.
http://www.terrapinphoto.com

 

There are 58s, and there are 75s. And quite a few zooms either begin
or end at 70. 65 is a perfectly reasaonble number.

I find at this point that I have dense enough coverage throughout a
wide range of focal lengths that minor changes in sensor size won't
discommode me. And I'd like better wide-end support, of course.

 

Does kinda change the thinking a bit... You could take two zoom lenses on a
trip w/three bodies having 1.0x, 1.3x, and 1.6x multipliers and have quite a
"lens assortment" available to you. Of course, using this logic, it might
be desirable to stick a 2.0x or 3.0x sensor in some body in your
lineup...it'd be cheaper yet and your marketing department could promote it
as a competitive advantage.

(But, I still want 1.0x multipliers!) As for the technology not being
mature enough, I think it is more that marketing departments aren't mature
enough...they know if they hold out for 1.0x sensors, costs would be up for
awhile and business would shift in the interim until the technology to make
cost effective 1.0x sensors is more fully developed.

 

Sounds like the solution when we've got Gigapixel sensors.

 

How many angels will fit on the head of a pin?

Come on guys, get out and take some pictures!

 

That's about the *1* D Mark 2. This thread is about a supposed *10* D Mark
2. There was a link posted in the original post which doesn't point to a
real page.

 

See:
http://web.canon.jp/Imaging/eos1dm2/index.html

This is a really outstanding camera. 8.2 mpixels, 8.5 frames per second,
40 frames continuous at 8.5/sec = the fastest digital on the market.
It looks like you can put a compact flash and an SD card in and write
to both so you have backup on critical events. It records sound,
1/8000 second exposure 50-3200 ISO, top pro body (weather resistant).
But it weighs, with the 11.8 ounce battery 54.8 ounces (more than
3 pounds!). Other reports indicate a new lower noise than the 10D performance.
Price rumor ~ $3200 to 3800. There is a LOT of innovation here.
It as NOT just a 10D plus a little. This is a major new camera that
sets whole new standards of performance. Wow!

Roger

 

http://www.dpreview.com/news/0401/04012901canon28300is.asp

David J. Littleboy
Tokyo, Japan

 

Also:
40 ms shutter lag! The canon 10D and Nikon D100 are both arounf 100 ms.

Roger

 

See:
http://www.dpreview.com/articles/canoneos1dmkii/default.asp

Now we have to wait for a real camera and real reviews.

Roger