Workflow for web pages

Discussion in 'Photoshop Tutorials' started by Derek Fountain, Jan 12, 2004.

  1. I've used PS7.01 for some work with some images from my digital camera.
    Working with sRGB, the images look just as I want them to using Mozilla on
    the Windows box I created them on. I (think I) understand the concepts
    behind colour managed applications like PS and non colour managed ones like
    Mozilla. Mozilla shows what I want to see.

    As it happens my monitor has two inputs, and the second input is connected
    to my Linux box. When I look at the images using Mozilla on the Linux box,
    the images are darker - quite significantly so. So what, I ask myself, is
    the difference between looking at the images using Moz under Windows and
    looking at the same images, on the same monitor, using the same application
    on Linux? The answer, I'm guessing, is the Adobe Gamma utility. When
    Windows boots the screen switches to a lighter display, which I've always
    assumed is the gamma utility kicking in.

    Given that my monitor and printer are in broad agreement about colours (my
    prints look mostly like the screen), I'm loathe to tweak that gamma
    setting. I do everything in sRGB, so I'd have thought the Linux view of my
    images would pretty much match the Windows view. And I think it would,
    except that the gamma utility is making my Windows display lighter than
    sRGB. Linux doesn't understand colour management, so I'd consider the Linux
    display to be "bog standard" and similar to any other display used by the
    people who are going to look at my images.

    I'd like to be able to see, under Windows, the images like they'll be seen
    on Linux, or on any other display unaffected by Adobe Gamma. So where is
    the flaw in my workflow (or thinking)?
     
    Derek Fountain, Jan 12, 2004
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  2. Derek Fountain

    Waldo Guest

    I think it is a Linux problem (saying that as a Microsoft hater...), try
    google to find a tool like Adobe Gamma. I wouldn't recommend disabling Adobe
    Gamma (unless you're using other software for that purpose of course).

    Waldo
     
    Waldo, Jan 12, 2004
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  3. I think it is a Linux problem (saying that as a Microsoft hater...), try
    But wouldn't the problem apply to anyone viewing my web pages on Windows who
    isn't running Abode Gamma? i.e. most people?

    AFAICS the problem is that I'm using Adobe Gamma when creating images which
    will be viewed (on all sorts of platforms) without it.
     
    Derek Fountain, Jan 12, 2004
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  4. It may also be a problem of the monitor (color temperature, etc.) Try to
    switch the monitors and see what happens.

    I am using two different monitors with one PC (Dualhead), there are
    significant differences.

    Uwe
     
    Uwe Ziegenhagen, Jan 12, 2004
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  5. Derek Fountain

    Waldo Guest

    But wouldn't the problem apply to anyone viewing my web pages on Windows
    who
    True, but your prints will probably differ quite a lot from your screen in
    that case.

    For designing webpages, you might disable color management. I found that too
    much work and didn't bother, I convert all my "web art" to sRGB and do
    nothing else. If it shows up differently (it will), so be it. I just can't
    expect all people to have knowledge about color.

    Waldo
     
    Waldo, Jan 13, 2004
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  6. Derek Fountain

    Alvie Guest

    I know exactly what the problem is.
    For years I put up with just making my MAC images washed out and lifeless so
    that Windows users could see them as they really were. The Adobe gamma is
    like a monitor profile. The monitor profile is used by Windows at boot time.
    Why would you need 2 programs to manage the monitor? You don't!

    Try switching off the colour management altogether. The printer profile is
    applied by Windows at print time. This (for the most part) over rides all
    your colour settings anyway. You'll find more conflicting advise in
    comp.graphics.apps.Photoshop but at the end of it all... Something is wrong
    with your colour management if you are the only one able to see your work as
    it should be.

    ABC
     
    Alvie, Jan 13, 2004
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