Your Expertise Required

Discussion in 'UK Photography' started by Mike, Jul 17, 2008.

  1. My advice was the only practical reply that they got. Clearly their
    budget and apparent technical background wasn't going to produce top
    quality results, so a degree of compromise was called for. As an
    answer, that had to be less worthless than "get a man in" or "use a
    shift lens".
     
    Willy Eckerslyke, Jul 18, 2008
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    Rob Morley Guest

    Having worked for one or two clueless cheapskates with unrealistic
    expectations, I have to say that my best advice is to start looking
    for a new job now.
     
    Rob Morley, Jul 19, 2008
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  3. Mike

    Rob Morley Guest

    I know, but if this "professional interior design business" was working
    at that sort of level they wouldn't be asking WHSmith what camera to
    buy, would they?
    Indeed.
     
    Rob Morley, Jul 19, 2008
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    Chris H Guest

    I would agree... however a job is better than no job. You may also get
    contacts for the next step
     
    Chris H, Jul 20, 2008
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    80/20 Guest

    Linette you certainly started something here!

    There are two main things to ask, are you purely an interior design
    company or a furniture design company?

    If an interior design company why are you doing "studio environment"
    photographs instead of location shoots?

    If you can do location shoots I would recommend using ambient light -
    wait for the howls. Ambient lighting gives you a much more realistic
    feel to your shots, but you will need a camera that will be able to
    take exposures in excess of 30 seconds and you will also need to use a
    very sturdy tripod.

    I regularly take indoor shots of hotel guestrooms, restaurants, bars
    and reception areas and never use flash. Last Thursday I was taking
    photographs of a restaurant area with no external light only the
    internal lighting - a professional photographer was taking photos of
    the same area but using full flash soft boxes and strobes. He had
    great trouble balancing the lighting so that the dark carpets and
    furniture didn't cause the light coloured walls to be over exposed.
    My photos just needed a little work in Photoshop Elements to make them
    fit for printing and for the web pages they will be going on.

    I would recommend:
    A DSLR with a minimum of 10 megapixels - Canon and Nikon are good
    makes - look at camera review site on the web.
    Two good quality zoom lenses 17mm - 55mm and 80mm - 200mm
    Remote control release, preferably infra red or wireless so you don't
    have to touch the camera to fire the shutter.
    Very sturdy tripod - by that I mean fairly heavy and unlikely to cost
    less than £100.00. (You are looking for a tripod that will withstand
    being knocked without falling over and preferably having the ability
    to splay the legs for working in tight areas or uneven locations.)
    Photoshop Elements 6 - a lot of people will recommend full blown
    Photoshop, but at your level Photoshop Elements 6 is more than
    capable.
    Get yourself onto a Photographic Course and make sure the tutor knows
    the type of work you are undertaking.

    Finally for that MUST BE RIGHT FIRST TIME shot consider a professional
    photographer, but expect to pay about £500/£700 per day plus out of
    pocket expenses.

    Do not be put off by the comments in this thread, yes a professional
    photographer should produce better work that you just as a
    professional interior designer should produce better work than an
    amateur/hotel owners wife. I sell to both types of interior designer
    and I work with professional photographers as well as doing my own
    photos in my experience there are good and bad professionals and there
    are some good and bad amateurs the difference is I can normally
    "advise" the amateur interior designer.

    Do your research and confidently put forward the case for all parts of
    your argument.
     
    80/20, Jul 22, 2008
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    Geoff Berrow Guest

    I've read all the posts in this thread so I thought I'd get back to the
    original and find out what was really required. Nowhere does it say
    anything about the expertise of the person taking the photographs (nor
    indeed that it is the OP).

    When I hear 'prodominantly indoor studio enviroment'(sic) I'm thinking
    room sets. Seems to me, the camera is the least of your worries. By
    far the most important aspect will be creativity and lighting. The
    recording device, providing it has the necessary controls and is of
    reasonable quality, is secondary.

    Better camera does not necessarily mean better pictures. In fact, in
    untrained hands a digital SLR will simply give you far more ways to cock
    things up.

    If there are any worries at all in this area, I'd spend the money on
    training.

    But if it were me, even though I know my way round an SLR and have a
    design background, I'd still employ a professional.
     
    Geoff Berrow, Jul 25, 2008
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    savvo Guest

    Perhaps you missed the sentence that you left out of your quote:

    And, "This will require a good camera and any other necessary studio
    photography equiptment like reflection and flash light devices," speaks
    volumes to me about the expertise of the person who says he/she has had
    photography added to their job description after appointment.
     
    savvo, Jul 25, 2008
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    Geoff Berrow Guest

    Yes I did, but my point that we do not know the expertise of the boss or
    the OP still stands. Though we can make a good guess.
    Agreed. The OP is in a difficult situation. The boss is clearly
    clueless, which bosses have a right to be. The OP, if they have taken
    notice of this discussion will be more clueful, but will still be in the
    position of having to carry out the bosses instructions. ("Why are
    these pictures awful, when we bought a really good camera?")

    I'd suggest that if the OP wants to impress they do some serious study.
     
    Geoff Berrow, Jul 25, 2008
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  9. We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
    Silicon sisters, well connected?
     
    Grimly Curmudgeon, Aug 14, 2008
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    Chris H Guest

    :)
     
    Chris H, Aug 15, 2008
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